the orb wasnt a powerup. it was used to hit morg. he wasnt deriving power from hit. no evidence to even suggest that. tyrant made thanos leave a lot quicker than odin who never made thanos leave, that right there tells u that tyrant issuperior to odin. odinfought him for alonger time and thanos looked in better shape and wasnt going anywhere.
no depowerd tyrant was still kicking big g's ass in silver surfer 108. odin couldnt beat up on galactus. i dont believe he could. tyrant only lost to the un in his depowered state. tyrant would beat odin.
So ur saying that this was really the orb vs. Tyrant instead of Thanos? Could it be possible that Thanos was just using the orbs power as u say because he knew he didn't stand a chance with his own? I gave him the benefit of a doubt and said he combined his own power with it. Anyway I'm dropping the orb debate because we don't know how much power it really contained.
Tyrant's HV sent Thanos flying as well. He stood up to Tyrant for a while but we all know where this fight was headed had it continued.
I never claimed that Thanos would be capable of defeating Tyrant on his own.
However,Tyrant was surprised over the fact that Thanos survived his attacks and was obviously trying very hard. Odin ASKED Thanos if he gave up, meaning that he tried to make Thanos yield and not kill him. Why else would he ask if Thanos gave up? Either way, this isn't Tyrant vs Odin, it's Tyrant vs Surtur.
there should be no debate here. tyrant messed him up more than odin in a shorter time. thanos left. thanos loked better and wasnt going anywhere and fought odin for awhile. simple. tyrant beats odin. tyrant beats surtur.
yeah but wasn't that because he is able to steal power. There is a specific reason, or skill of Tyrant which allowed him to handle G, and it wouldn't work on Odin.
I don't think Tyrant tried hard at all. Look at what happened after the explosion. Thanos was visibly scarred while Tyrant still looked fresh with no scars. If Tyrants invulnerability is on that much a higher level then his power is also. After the first blast Thanos gave, that was when Tyrant said "you are not like the others" then he proceded to test Thanos's strength by allowing Thanos to get a couple shots in (IMHO). After that the assault was quickly brought to a halt. Odin being a good guy gave Thanos a choice. Thanos knew he only had 1 choice vs. Tyrant.
Ur right this is Tyrant vs. Surtur and I'm not trying to get too far off topic. I'm still going with Tyrant.
This scan should end all debate. I mean he takes a simultaneous shot from SS and Thanos, and it doesn't do anything to him. Thanos' durability feat in the subsequent scans was awesome, but Odin wasn't even flinching at his attacks,
I haven't seen Tyrant display any particular resistance to magic. There's also a reason why Odin always has to lock Surtur away instead of killing him.
Again, no evidence whatsoever that it powered up Thanos. Neither he nor Tryant nor the writer give any indication that it is. So stating otherwise is speculation.
Considering Thanos was doing absolutely no damage to Odin, and Odin wasn't using most of his arsenal against Thanos, I highly doubt it.
Thanos got beat down in his fight with Odin just like he did with Tyrant. Neither were hurt at the end of each battle. But Tyrant was hurt during the fight. Odin was not.
That was complete BS to me. An enraged Surfer cosmic blast(s) didn't do anything and Stormbreaker bounced off him like he got hit playing dodgeball. I guess the villian has to show some sort of vulnerability. Can't have him just completely walk all over all the heroes like he just about did.
who cares. a bee can hurt u or me. doesnt mean a bee is killing us unless we are allergic. tyrant defeated all the forces that were in front of him. he didnt lose. its simple.
unless we find out tyrant is allergic to odin hes not killing him. tyrant wins.
ur argument has no basis. its all speculation. odin wasnt going all out. why wouldnt he be. why did he step in. he knows the titans reputation. he wouldnt take chances. unless ur argument changes and says odins dumb as hell. he wouldnt give thanos an inch. he didnt but it faile dto put thanos down. ho wmany times did odin think thanos was dead.
Why wouldn't Odin be going all out? I don't know. But I do know that Odin gave Thanos the chance to give up. I also know that Odin's first attack wasn't nearly as strong as his other ones. So, it seems to me like he was trying to subdue Thanos and give him the chance to give up instead of kill him.
How many times did Odin think Thanos was dead? Once. Just like Tyrant did.
odin was going all out. that s my point it doesnt make sense for him to be holding back. pdin treid to put thanos down and failed at it. he did succeed in laying waste to much of asgard in this battle. tyrant made thanos leave a lot quicker than odin. hell odin didnt make thanos yield or leave. kind of tells you something doesnt it.
About DP Tyrant Vs. Surtur, tough one. I know it is not FP Tyrant, but I would still chose DP Tyrant somehow.
About Thanos Vs. DP Tyrant. Thanos was amped good, I mean DP Tyrant had no trouble at all against those six powerful beings and then had trouble with Thanos (although DP Tyrant wasn't hurt at all and beat Thanos and didn't go all out). Thanos was amped good and those six would crush non-amped Thanos in a fight.
Have you seen Odin fight when he's IS going all out? What he did to Thanos is nothing compared to his true power.
The only reason Thanos left quicker against Tyrant than he did against Odin is because he and the rest of the Watch were there to talk to Odin. It doesn't make sense for him to leave when the whole objective of going to Asgard was to find him. Against Tyrant, he stated he did what he set out to do. He withstood Tyrant and stole the orb.
No proof that Thanos' power was amped in that fight. He shoots power from the orb once. Other than that, he hits Tyrant with it physically and blasts him with his own power.
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