That one is only stronger if it is proven to be and not because someone says. I see no good reason to say that Mangog is even stronger than Juggs, let alone Superman.
The guy saying that Superman would beat Mangog has no right to talk about common sense or logic.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Show me some proof that despero is stronger then superman besides the time he one shotted him. There isnt any but we all know it because of who he fought and what he has done. Show me some proof that galactus is stronger then superman, does that also mean that superman is stronger then him also.
By the way, where in the hell are you getting superman strength is so far above thor, they must have arm wrestled in a comic and superman won because I have yet to see thor struggle to lift ANYTHING.
no, i get his stance on the matter, it's one of a person that reads supes titles regularly so he can't be at fault. superman does stuff in his stories that he really shouldn't sometimes but thats the way it is.
the common consensus though is that the silver surfer is superior overall to superman, at that same time however thor and the silver surfer have quite the equal stance in marvel and the victor out of the two is unclear.
mangog has beaten thor down with ease though, no bs or playing around he just flat out thrashes him. he is far above thor.
Superman and wonderwoman are gods in this forum when yet they have so many people far above them.
I cant believe people are actually debating against mangog in this battle but I do believe that h1a8 would debate in supermans favor because he is the one that said that superman could blitz odin and superman is skyfather level AND that superman could beat thanos and could give tyrant a fight and he also said that he could beat surfer.
You could look at who they fought and how well they did.
Or you could just count feats, in which case Wonderman is far stronger than Doomsday.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
I don't think Superman can give tyrant a fight. I believe with his best abilities he can make a fight on Thanos, Odin (only through trying to hit him before he can react), and I think Supes can beat SS through instant speed blitz (but this depends on the below).
I'll compromise though. If Thor can hang with SS then Superman will dog walk SS. But if SS is supposed to beat Thor handily then SS probably beats Superman for slight majority. You fanboys can't have it both ways so choose what you like.
It's takes great logic and decent amount of evidence to discern strength from how a battle went. Knocking someone away doesn't prove stronger since nearly all character's weigh much less than lifting strength. Juggs nearly koed Thor in less hits than Mangog did. Is he stronger than Mangog?
And DD has greater strength feats then Wonderman. For I say overpowering a Superman grip means that you are indeed stronger than Superman and thus Wonderman.
Superman is a bug to odin and yes I agree superman would give thanos a headache but the fight wont last more then 5 minutes. I honestly give thor the majority over superman. I dont agree with that speed blitz crap due to the fact that superman has centuries of proof that shows him being hit by bricks and that is more then enough evidence that proves that thor could go blow for blow with superman. KMC has a fantasy made up of superman that erases everything that superman is worth and have happened and done in comics. The reason I give thor a majority is he is just to da** versatile for superman and has a weapon that should be able to one shot superman since captain marvel is a magical base being and it has been shown 3 times that he can one shot superman and it was stated numerous of times that his punch could kill superman (look at the eclipso/superman vs captain marvel fight). Silver surfer should never lose to superman, surfer is just in a totally different class. This is a guy that just pull new powers out of his a**. And the reason why thor gives surfer a fight is because both are some of the most versatile characters in comics and they are basically equals. Also thor has no weakness but superman is pack full of them.
Incorrect as Wonderman has done much the same to Thor.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
who cares how much he can benchpress, that shit doesn't matter anymore now does it. mangog kicked the shit out of thor thoroughly so it is implied that whatever thor can lift, mangog is superior to even that in order to take thor's blows.
the same is applied to doomsday....the guy never lifts anything because it is pointless for him to when he can cause more damage with his fists.
another example is the hulk who can cause 10.0 richtor scale destruction with his bare hands with minimal effort, whats a building going to do that his hands can't?
I misunderstand. Who said anything about bench pressing?
I go by either lifting feats, hitting feats, or wrestling feats to prove the stronger. Mangog has no lifting, hitting, or wrestling feats that put him above Superman in strength. Being stronger than Thor doesn't mean you are stronger than Superman. And durability necessarily has nothing to do with strength. For example, Juggs is more durable than Gladiator and can withstand Thor's blows as well as Mangog can. But is Juggs stronger than someone who can pissingly 3 shot a planet at his best?
It also takes great logic and extrapolation of evidence to discern how a battle would go on strength alone, a crutch which you seem to be leaning on. I would agree that beating an opponent in a physical fight does not equate solely to strength/durability/skill/speed, but the fact is that Mangog's physical triumphs over the Asgardians were solely down to strength and durability. I'm only concerned with whether or not Mangog could take a physical engagement with Superman, and his physical level, established by the average of his feats, says that he can. If you believe that ranged attacks like HV and freeze breath would work where an anti-force blast failed, you're welcome to prove it.
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