I call PIS here because there is no feat Hulk has done to compare and that he shouldn't have done that under the stipulations of his powers (being mad). Meaning, there is no way Hulk was mad enough to become that strong. Hulk was much madder other times and got his ass beat.
Are you saying that Superman has no low strength feats? Come on.
Thanos has nary any lifting feats as well. I would still bet on him against the hulk. Being stronger than Thor doesn't make one stronger than Superman necessarily, but being Thor's dominant physical superior establishes Mangog's own physical level, and said level is a lot higher than Superman's own physical level, as established by his average feats.
Durability has nothing to do with strength, but it has a lot to do with how a physical confrontation would pan out.
Every character has a highest feat. That was probably Hulk's best strength feat, save the anti-matter feat. Are we supposed to eliminate every character's best feat because there is no comparable feat, and hence must be PIS?
Hulk getting his ass beat doesn't mean he isn't strong enough to come up with strength feats. It simply means that he is outclassed in other areas. Make hulk as strong as possible, Galactus would still turn him into slime.
In what way showed that Mangog was at least twice as strong as Thor? Because people are hypnotized by his durability and size. So being dominate in durability doesn't mean you are stronger. Hell Mangog struggled like hell to lift that sword.
So hulk destroying a planet with a punch is a feat that he shouldnt have done huh. What about the feat wwh did, he held a planet together with nothing but pure strength. He actually had one side of a splitting planet in one hand and had the other chunk in his other hand and pulled the planet back together. That takes nothing but pure strength.
and titus struggled like hell to break out of a box that was created by green lantern that the lantern even stated had the weight of 100 tons but titus still one shotted superman.
If he did it once then he should be able to do it all the time. Plus you argue powerset alone and if you by the Hulks powers and his anger he wins most of the time due to the fact he only has anger based limitations.
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I believe I have made it clear that my stance is that strength isn't the only factor in a physical fight. If you're as logical as you claim, I'm sure you would follow. My point is that Mangog was shown to be extremely dominant over Thor, and has shown nothing throughout his appearances to say otherwise. That alone places him at a physical level above Superman's average. If you believe that there were other extenuating factors, feel free to prove them.
like i stated before, superman 1/10 on the off chance mangog is allergic to kryptonians.
but really, what can superman do that an anti-force blast to the spine when his back was turned can't do? heat vision, fast punches? superman doesn't have the power output needed to deal with a mangog.
What was so special about that post. Darkseid has been getting a** raped for years now. Darksied used to be above top tier but people like batman is making his a** bleed now. I guess he thinks batman batkick has gotten stronger over the years also since he did almost get koed by it.
Simply put, in all the times HV has been used, the number of times it has significantly damaged an opponent anywhere near Mangog is extremely low. Only Despero comes immediately to mind, although I am no expert on HV feats. Mangog has ranged blasts as well as matter manipulation, but I'm simply being realistic in saying that a physical confrontation would likely decide the outcome of this fight.
I find this feat impressive. Oh and can someone post some scans of Mangog using a ranged blast? Like I said earlier I looked over the respect thread, and I probably missed it, but all I saw was him using physical strength. Till morrow.
None of those scans even come close to proving Superman would beat Mangog.
Seriously, Mangog lowest showing was shrugging off an anti-force blast and soundly ko'ing Thor.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
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