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marwash22
HELL YEAH.

Gender: Male
Location: Balls deep in your cerebral cortex

The Neo-hate is strong.

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Aug 19th, 2010 02:46 AM

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illadelph
aka Rakim Illa

Gender: Male
Location: Retirement.

You think this is bad.

Wait til we get to Sylar and Peter Petrelli.

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Aug 19th, 2010 02:52 AM

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illadelph
aka Rakim Illa

Gender: Male
Location: Retirement.

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
no, neo's "powers" in the matrix are his understanding that it is not real and his mind (all the one's of each matrix for that matter) has the most potential to bend the coding. this will not work in the real world as exhibited by neo in the films, all he could do is stop machines in their tracks among other things cause of his interaction with the agent smith code.

superman's powers work on marvel earth and the matrix's earth (the darkness might pose a problem in time) cause the sun is indeed there and acts the same, this is pretty much universally true in all earth's in fictional media.

what you want to do is change neo's powers so they apply universally, but i see many problems that will stem from that since it's too much of a stretch.

if it was a robotic character like say deathlok then you have a case to use neo's full powerset, but against most characters too much has to be altered.

Neo's powers in the Matrix are his ability to re-write a virtual reality. The powers he exhibits in that virtual reality, for purposes of Cross Genre matches, will have the same effects in the neutral KMC battlefields as if it were the Matrix.

How is this a hard concept?

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Aug 19th, 2010 02:55 AM

marwash22
HELL YEAH.

Gender: Male
Location: Balls deep in your cerebral cortex

I think i already nominated Sylar for Elite-Meta.

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Aug 19th, 2010 02:55 AM

Creshosk
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Gender: Male
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Originally posted by NemeBro

Edit: Are people arguing Neo should not get any of his powers in normal threads? Because that is stupid.

Yeah, they are.

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illadelph
aka Rakim Illa

Gender: Male
Location: Retirement.

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Originally posted by marwash22
I think i already nominated Sylar for Elite-Meta.

When that conversation expands we'll see where it goes.

Sylar's a very slippery slope.

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Aug 19th, 2010 03:00 AM

illadelph
aka Rakim Illa

Gender: Male
Location: Retirement.

Also, I'll try to make the update tomorrow.

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Aug 19th, 2010 03:04 AM

xmarksthespot
CEO, BS Comics

Gender: Male
Location: Inside you.

Hmm...

I'm more playing devil's advocate than actually caring what Neo can and can't do...

One can extend the argument the other way and say that for example Ichigo Kurosaki is actually just a normal human (who can see spirits) unless he leaves his body.

Neo should definitely have access to his abilities otherwise he would be pointless here. Whether or not those abilities would work on particular characters or not would be interesting though - there are far better matter and reality manipulators than he.

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Aug 19th, 2010 03:31 AM

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illadelph
aka Rakim Illa

Gender: Male
Location: Retirement.

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Originally posted by Existere
Also, hi all. Cresh, you're back! and Delph, long time no talk.

Just realized you were Smurph. Sup man?

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Aug 19th, 2010 03:44 AM

NemeBro
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Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah, they are.

Well that's stupid. It makes any debate with Neo pointless, since he is basically just a normal guy, the only thing that is really debateable is the method he used to take out Smith in the first movie.

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xmarksthespot
CEO, BS Comics

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Originally posted by Existere
Also, hi all. Cresh, you're back! and Delph, long time no talk.

SMURPH!!!!!!!!

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Aug 19th, 2010 06:17 AM

psycho gundam
The Nightmare of Solomon

Gender: Male
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by illadelph12
Neo's powers in the Matrix are his ability to re-write a virtual reality. The powers he exhibits in that virtual reality, for purposes of Cross Genre matches, will have the same effects in the neutral KMC battlefields as if it were the Matrix.

How is this a hard concept?

i can't make myself ignorant to what his powers actually are, i just can't bring myself to do it

the asgardian destroyer's main flaw is that the host body is vulberable while the spirit animates the suit, and the souless corpse has been attacked before which renders the suit inert. like the destryoer suit, does the same happen for neo while plugged into the matrix, or is that fat trimmed off also?

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Originally posted by Creshosk
Actually guess which one we see more?

oh and why that matters:

which is the problem....

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Aug 19th, 2010 06:46 AM

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illadelph
aka Rakim Illa

Gender: Male
Location: Retirement.

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
i can't make myself ignorant to what his powers actually are, i just can't bring myself to do it

the asgardian destroyer's main flaw is that the host body is vulberable while the spirit animates the suit, and the souless corpse has been attacked before which renders the suit inert. like the destryoer suit, does the same happen for neo while plugged into the matrix, or is that fat trimmed off also?

There's an enormous difference, however. When Neo is jacled in to the Matrix nothing within the Matrix has access to his physical body. Essentially, the Neo we see in the Matrix is an M Body, like what Abstracts use to physically interact with Marvel reality. We're not discussing his physical self, we're discussing his Matrix Manifestation Body. It's entirely pointless to discus his non-Matrix self.

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Aug 19th, 2010 01:45 PM

Creshosk
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Originally posted by Existere

Also, hi all. Cresh, you're back! and Delph, long time no talk.

Yup. I'm back ... for now.

Hopefully it'll actually post my greeting to you this time...

How have you been?

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Aug 19th, 2010 01:49 PM

Creshosk
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Originally posted by psycho gundam
which is the problem....

It's only a problem if you refuse to accept the forum rules.

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Aug 19th, 2010 01:50 PM

Omega Vision
Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

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Location: Miami Metropolitan Area

I'm disappointed that no one has nodded my Boris the Blade nomination. Hasn't anyone here seen Snatch?

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illadelph
aka Rakim Illa

Gender: Male
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I believe you and I are among the few people on this forum that have ever seen snatch...

...

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Aug 19th, 2010 05:05 PM

marwash22
HELL YEAH.

Gender: Male
Location: Balls deep in your cerebral cortex

i must admit, i have never seen it...

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Aug 19th, 2010 05:13 PM

Wei Phoenix
One-Eyed Dragon Of Oshu

Gender: Unspecified
Location: Southern Cross

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I'm disappointed that no one has nodded my Boris the Blade nomination. Hasn't anyone here seen Snatch?

Well you didn't respond to me when I quoted it so meh!

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