You're the one who started this mess, getting off on the fact that I like Robbie Williams as a songwriter. And you are actually too. Wrong I mean. Give me the proof and we'll see. If you're right, how hard can it be?
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Well, yes, that's why I even mentioned him. And if he has been credited wrongly for writing his songs, then that's not good. I agree, that's just wrong. I would in that case change my opinion. But as long as he is credited, I have no reason to doubt that. Not until I get more solid evidence.
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Last edited by yvonnekarate on Sep 13th, 2007 at 03:57 PM
In 'Life Thru a Lens' it says: "all songs written by R Williams and G Chambers, except // Old Before I Die written by R Williams, E Bazilian, D Child and // Clean written by R Williams, A Genn, R Hawley, M Slattery P Cook"
In 'I've Been Expecting You' is says: "all songs written by R Williams and G Chambers" with some exceptions like above.
I know though that he didn't write the songs for 'Swing When You're Winning', as he sings cover versions of old songs.
I never denied he's been writing songs with Guy Chambers, infact I mentioned that earlier. I could go on, but I don't really see a point in that.
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That would be true if it actually said those things on the albums, because it doesn't. Unless you have a special version of those albums, of course.
As Bardock said, he is often credited, but credited wrongly.
He doesn't write his songs. Why do you think he even has songwriters working for him? Because he doesn't write them himself, but if he were to admit such it would seem damaging. He's not the only one, many attach their names without actually putting any work into creating, him included.
Huh? It does say that. I wrote it off my albums. If you don't believe me, you'll have to contact the record company. I've bought them in UK. If you look in the booklet, it says what I've just stated. In 'Life Thru a Lens' it's written on one of the last pages, same with 'I've Been Expecting You' and 'Sing When You're Winning' . That's also what it says in the booklet to the cd 'Escapology' (under each song the writer is credited).
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Last edited by yvonnekarate on Sep 13th, 2007 at 04:36 PM
The booklet is where I told you to look precisely because it doesn't say that.
Either way, credited or not, he doesn't actually write his songs. If you have versions where he is credited, then I can't necessarily blame you for believing he wrote them, but he doesn't actually write his own songs. It's a known fact here in the UK. He isn't hailed as a songwriter, not by anyone with sense.
Well, then I don't really know what to believe, as it says so in the booklets. And I hope we can have an end to this discussion and I apologise if I was wrong.
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Actually, I meant he gets credited on the albums, even though as AC pointed out, he doesn't actually write them...
From Wikipedia (And with that absolutely unreliable)
After recording for Williams' fifth solo album “Escapology” was completed in mid-2002, Chambers and Williams acrimoniously split amidst demands from Robbie Williams's management that Chambers stop writing for other artists although it's also been stated that it was due to Williams demanding a higher percentage of royalties for songwriting. It was revealed in Williams's book Feel that Chambers was demanding a ludicrously high royalty hike, leading to the split. Chambers revealed in a 2005 interview that he and Williams were on speaking terms again and hinted at possible future collaborations. Chambers has claimed their songwriting partnership was 50.50, he wrote most of the music, while Williams' wrote the lyrics and melodies. However, in the music industry, their songwriting relationship is widely known as 'Change a word - Claim a third', meaning Chambers was responsible for nearly all the music, melodies and lyrics with little intervention from Williams.
Well, as I've said, I don't really know what to believe. But I guess I should say 'Chambers' then as one of my favourites instead of Williams. I'm not that stubborn that I would say 'I'm right' if I'm infact wrong.
Regards, Yvonne
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Maybe you're right, I won't deny that. I just find it strange that it says so in my cds. It's not like I would make that up. That would just make me look even more stupid, as it makes me go on and on.
Regards, Yvonne
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