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because that would make for a stupid conclusion to the fight. Also he was out of control at that point.


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What!? He was letting the Hulk punch him out(and while talking).
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...-0+%2823%29.jpg

And then he thanked Bruce afterwards.

You're whole argument is HORRIBLE. But it doesn't matter because what I say correlates with the writer and there's nothing you can do. smile

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It doesn't go with what the writer is saying.

Again I ask...why did Sentry stay and fight "IF HE DIDN'T WANT TO FIGHT"?

I'm trying to understand you.

Why did Sentry blast and punch Hulk after Hulk did the combo to almost koe.

Why did Sentry try to prevent Hulk from punching him in the face with energy if he didn't care about the outcome of the fight?

Here is Hulk trying to punch Sentry...here is Sentry using energy, trying to push Hulk fist back. Zzzzzzzzzzz...look at Hulk armor being torn apart while still being blasted by Sentry energy.

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wh0225.jpg.html

Sentry was fighting to win. If not...why do this?

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wwh021.jpg.html

Why even attempt to attack someone with so much energy if you are not trying to win. Like I said, this argument is TERRIBLE. Outright nasty. Find another excuse.


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because that would make for a stupid conclusion to the fight. Also he was out of control at that point.


And it takes two to fight. Why show up if Sentry didn't want to fight?


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And it takes two to fight. Why show up if Sentry didn't want to fight?
this has been explained to you a million times. Why ask it again when you will just ignore it again.

Just like you ignoring when I asked you to show me when sentry had great regen pre DA.

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this has been explained to you a million times. Why ask it again when you will just ignore it again.

Just like you ignoring when I asked you to show me when sentry had great regen pre DA.


And the explaination didn't make sense.

Also, I didn't see you bring that back up but I'm still looking. As of now I cant find any healing fts.


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It doesn't go with what the writer is saying.

Actually it does. You just refuse to see.

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Again I ask...why did Sentry stay and fight "IF HE DIDN'T WANT TO FIGHT"?

This proves you do not read post people post to you. Didn't I state Sentry started losing control TOWARDS THE END. Repeat TOWARDS THE END. Stop with the strawman arguments.

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I'm trying to understand you.

You're really not...

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Why did Sentry blast and punch Hulk after Hulk did the combo to almost koe.

Why did Reed, Rick and others state the Sentry was losing control? See what I just did?

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Why did Sentry try to prevent Hulk from punching him in the face with energy if he didn't care about the outcome of the fight?

What point of he was losing control towards the end don't you understand? Stop with your strawmans. I already told you why the Sentry wanted to lose, because towards the end he was losing control.

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Here is Hulk trying to punch Sentry...here is Sentry using energy, trying to push Hulk fist back. Zzzzzzzzzzz...look at Hulk armor being torn apart while still being blasted by Sentry energy.

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wh0225.jpg.html

What????? Please tell me you aren't serious with this??? You can't be...You just can't be...No one can be this slow. No one. God almighty....Thanks for owning yourself. Look the scan again. Sentry is LETTING Hulk punch him, not only that he is letting Hulk grab on of his arms. Why? Because he was losing control. If not...why do this?

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Sentry was fighting to win. If not...why do this?

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wwh021.jpg.html

Umm....After Sentry let Hulk punch him.

Why did Sentry thank Bruce if not for punching punching him out and thus stopping him from destroying everything. If not..why do this?
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Why even attempt to attack someone with so much energy if you are not trying to win. Like I said, this argument is TERRIBLE. Outright nasty. Find another excuse.


Your whole debating skills is an not only terrible but outright an ABOMINATION! Stop trying to be a Hulk fan when you don't even know how to debate for him.

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It does but you refuse to understand it or won't concede. I'm almost 100% positive that he has no feats of regen ore so that agument you has is out the window.


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bbrem123 you wanna take it from here? I explained my argument far to many times and refuting carver is way too easy for me. So I'll let you have him. I'm getting something to eat.

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I told you guys to stop arguing with Carver.
Sentry could rip Hulk's head off on panel and he would find a way to lowball and overhype the Hulk.

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Actually it does. You just refuse to see.


This proves you do not read post people post to you. Didn't I state Sentry started losing control TOWARDS THE END. Repeat TOWARDS THE END. Stop with the strawman arguments.


You're really not...


Why did Reed, Rick and others state the Sentry was losing control? See what I just did?


What point of he was losing control towards the end don't you understand? Stop with your strawmans. I already told you why the Sentry wanted to lose, because towards the end he was losing control.


What????? Please tell me you aren't serious with this??? You can't be...You just can't be...No one can be this slow. No one. God almighty....Thanks for owning yourself. Look the scan again. Sentry is LETTING Hulk punch him, not only that he is letting Hulk grab on of his arms. Why? Because he was losing control. If not...why do this?


Umm....After Sentry let Hulk punch him.

Why did Sentry thank Bruce if not for punching punching him out and thus stopping him from destroying everything. If not..why do this?
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Your whole debating skills is an not only terrible but outright an ABOMINATION! Stop trying to be a Hulk fan when you don't even know how to debate for him.


It really doesn't.

Thats the problem, Sentry fought during the entire battle...it wasn't just "towards the end".

As shown here, he is bomb rushing Hulk through some building while having energy around both him and Hulk.

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wwh009.jpg.html

Wait, let me guess, thats a man that isn't ready to fight. He is bomb rushing Hulk through some buildings for fun and let me guess, he wants to talk (lol).

Hulk tries to talk to him, tell Sentry that this isn't a fight he wants. Guess what Sentry say and does. He states, "God help me I do. You're the only one I can hit like this".

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wwh010.jpg.html

Wait, Hulk states Sentry doesn't want this fight but Sentry states GOD HELP ME I DO WANT THIS FIGHT. Guess what he does after that, he punch Hulk through some buildings.

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wwh011.jpg.html

Wait everyone, this is a man that wasnt fighting in the beginning. He is punching Hulk because he doesn't want to fight (yeah freaking right...he even tell Hulk he wants to fight).

Guess what, it isn't even done. Here is Sentry trying to blitz Hulk. Wait, he is blitzing at the Hulk because he doesn't want to fight ( laughing out loud ).

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wwh012.jpg.html

This is where the Sentry fans begin to cry.

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wwh013.jpg.html

Hulk stopped his blitz dead in its track.

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wwh013.jpg.html

Sentry was on the OFFENSE the entire time but let me guess, he didn't want to fight 'when Hulk started defending himself'.

Let look at some more of Sentry not wanting to fight.

Still in the beginning of the fight...he blast Hulk.

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wwh015.jpg.html

Wait, here goes a man that doesn't want to fight. He blast Hulk.

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wwh020.jpg.html

Wait a minute, here is a man that doesnt want to fight...he keep attacking Hulk with blasts (looks to me like Sentry got the most licks in this fight so far...the only time Hulk has landed a lick is during the time Sentry SUPPOSEDLY let Hulk hit him...lol at you all again).

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wwh021.jpg.html

Hulk defends himself, grabs Sentry hands and tries to punch Sentry in the face and succeeds (Sentry is using some type of energy to prevent Hulk from caving that face in...can tell by the electricity noise and Hulk armor being ripped apart before connecting to Sentry face). Then Sentry punch Hulk back. So far we have Sentry landing the most blows.

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wh0225.jpg.html

Their still fighting. Hulk punch Sentry, Sentry blasts Hulk through his fingers. Sentry is still leading this battle.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/...ran1/wwh022.jpg

Still fighting. Sentry is preparing for a punch and he is blasting Hulk at the same time (look at the energy circling Hulk body). Both are preparing for a punch and BOTH lock up again. Wait, why is Sentry doing all of this fighting. He landed the most hits, blasting, preventing Hulk from punching him. I guess that means he doesn't want to fight.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/...ran1/wwh023.jpg


Wait, not done yet...this is the finally. We have both Hulk and SENTRY preparing for a super punch. BOTH PULLING BACK FOR A PUNCH ending with a huge explosion.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/...ran1/wwh024.jpg

Wait, this is the work of a man that doesn't want to fight. He not only admits he wants to fight, he throws the most hits, prevents a punch...blast Hulk and shows that he doesn't care about anyone around him while fighting the Hulk. I see nothing but Sentry fans whining because their character loss. If anyone didn't want to fight, it was Hulk. My shoulder is here for you if you need something to cry on.


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It really doesn't.

Thats the problem, Sentry fought during the entire battle...it wasn't just "towards the end".

As shown here, he is bomb rushing Hulk through some building while having energy around both him and Hulk.

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wwh009.jpg.html

Wait, let me guess, thats a man that isn't ready to fight. He is bomb rushing Hulk through some buildings for fun and let me guess, he wants to talk (lol).

Hulk tries to talk to him, tell Sentry that this isn't a fight he wants. Guess what Sentry say and does. He states, "God help me I do. You're the only one I can hit like this".

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wwh010.jpg.html

Wait, Hulk states Sentry doesn't want this fight but Sentry states GOD HELP ME I DO WANT THIS FIGHT. Guess what he does after that, he punch Hulk through some buildings.

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wwh011.jpg.html

Wait everyone, this is a man that wasnt fighting in the beginning. He is punching Hulk because he doesn't want to fight (yeah freaking right...he even tell Hulk he wants to fight).

Guess what, it isn't even done. Here is Sentry trying to blitz Hulk. Wait, he is blitzing at the Hulk because he doesn't want to fight ( laughing out loud ).

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wwh012.jpg.html

This is where the Sentry fans begin to cry.

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wwh013.jpg.html

Hulk stopped his blitz dead in its track.

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wwh013.jpg.html

Sentry was on the OFFENSE the entire time but let me guess, he didn't want to fight 'when Hulk started defending himself'.

Let look at some more of Sentry not wanting to fight.

Still in the beginning of the fight...he blast Hulk.

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wwh015.jpg.html

Wait, here goes a man that doesn't want to fight. He blast Hulk.

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wwh020.jpg.html

Wait a minute, here is a man that doesnt want to fight...he keep attacking Hulk with blasts (looks to me like Sentry got the most licks in this fight so far...the only time Hulk has landed a lick is during the time Sentry SUPPOSEDLY let Hulk hit him...lol at you all again).

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wwh021.jpg.html

Hulk defends himself, grabs Sentry hands and tries to punch Sentry in the face and succeeds (Sentry is using some type of energy to prevent Hulk from caving that face in...can tell by the electricity noise and Hulk armor being ripped apart before connecting to Sentry face). Then Sentry punch Hulk back. So far we have Sentry landing the most blows.

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wh0225.jpg.html

Their still fighting. Hulk punch Sentry, Sentry blasts Hulk through his fingers. Sentry is still leading this battle.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/...ran1/wwh022.jpg

Still fighting. Sentry is preparing for a punch and he is blasting Hulk at the same time (look at the energy circling Hulk body). Both are preparing for a punch and BOTH lock up again. Wait, why is Sentry doing all of this fighting. He landed the most hits, blasting, preventing Hulk from punching him. I guess that means he doesn't want to fight.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/...ran1/wwh023.jpg


Wait, not done yet...this is the finally. We have both Hulk and SENTRY preparing for a super punch. BOTH PULLING BACK FOR A PUNCH ending with a huge explosion.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/...ran1/wwh024.jpg

Wait, this is the work of a man that doesn't want to fight. He not only admits he wants to fight, he throws the most hits, prevents a punch...blast Hulk and shows that he doesn't care about anyone around him while fighting the Hulk. I see nothing but Sentry fans whining because their character loss. If anyone didn't want to fight, it was Hulk. My shoulder is here for you if you need something to cry on.



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And your scans didn't even show Sentry losing, so what are you arguing?

Good day now. smile

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I told you guys to stop arguing with Carver.
Sentry could rip Hulk's head off on panel and he would find a way to lowball and overhype the Hulk.

Or Hulk could beat Sentry senseless, on panel, and you and the fanboys would find a way to ignore it and excuse Sentry's failure with all sorts of phantom arguments.

The ludicrousness of this business of "Sentry wanted to lose", the fact that it contradicts Sentry's clearly vocalised and illustrated desire to fight Hulk with all his energy, to unleash because he was tired of being frightened about his powers and scared of hurting others. Because, as Tony Stark said, he knew that sometimes he had to "play God".

On top of all this, you then arrogantly claim that people actually low-balled Sentry here.

Sentry, the character that punched and blasted with everything he had and ran out of energy. Against a character who was always holding back, always attempting to reason and convince and save Sentry from himself. Against a character that showed, what truly unleashing power looks like.

Any reasonable Sentry fan would take it for what it was, Sentry is not powerful enough to tackle Hulk at his higher ranges.

Sentry is however able to comeback from the dead (as is Hulk) and he has more versatility than he utilised in the fight with Hulk.


Hulk however clearly was not even begging to tap into his own reserves of powers.


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And your scans didn't even show Sentry losing, so what are you arguing?

Good day now. smile


Sentry on the offense the entire match is him not wanting to fight.

My shoulder is here for you. "He landed the most licks". Your only argument is one part during the BEGINNING of the fight.

You misinterpreting a scan doesn't take away from the scans I've posted of Sentry doing NOTHING BUT FIGHTING.


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Sentry on the offense the entire match is him not wanting to fight.

My shoulder is here for you. "He landed the most licks". Your only argument is one part during the BEGINNING of the fight.

You misinterpreting a scan doesn't take away from the scans I've posted of Sentry doing NOTHING BUT FIGHTING.


Lol I didn't misinterpret anything, you're just one ignoring everything me and others post. I already explained everything a million times and its getting annoying. And so I'm just posting what the writer himself said. And its funny that you didn't even address that. So why dont you keep your shoulder for yourself since you're the one that really needs.

And no...I said Sentry started losing control towards the end which is why he let Hulk whale on him. Funny how you ignored Bob thanking Bruce. My argument was that Sentry had the UPPER HAND in the beginning. Read my main post on page 35.

Again stop with the nonsense and oh yeah.
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Writers words>>>yours.

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@Strange...

Again, Sentry didn't want to lose 'since he landed the most attacks and ADMITTED he wanted to fight". He specifically tells Hulk this during the beginning of the fight. Whats so hard to comprehend.

This one scan alone (including the many I've posted) goes against anything you've mentioned.

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wwh010.jpg.html

So again, during this one fight we have...

Sentry starting the fight by bull rushing Hulk.

Hulk telling Sentry he doesn't want this fight and Sentry telling Hulk, "yes, I do want this fight".

Sentry walking up to Hulk punching him in the stomach.

Sentry trying to blitz Hulk (but failing of course).

Sentry throwing combos on Hulk with energy blast.

And Sentry proceeding at attacking Hulk throughout the fight.

He told Hulk thank you because he was finally able to unleash his power...experience what it feels like to let loose which was stated here.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/...ran1/wwh020.jpg

He would have never experienced this sensation if it wasn't for his fight with the Hulk.


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Dude just give up already because this is getting ridiclous.


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@Strange...

Again, Sentry didn't want to lose 'since he landed the most attacks and ADMITTED he wanted to fight". He specifically tells Hulk this during the beginning of the fight. Whats so hard to comprehend.

Now when did I deny this? I said towards the end Sentry started losing control which he wanted the Hulk to beat him. Reading try it.

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This one scan alone (including the many I've posted) goes against anything you've mentioned.

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...wwh010.jpg.html


Try again, that was before Sentry started losing control. Notice how there are no flames. You keep misinterpreting my argument, which is getting really annoying.

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So again, during this one fight we have...

Sentry starting the fight by bull rushing Hulk.

Hulk telling Sentry he doesn't want this fight and Sentry telling Hulk, "yes, I do want this fight".

Sentry walking up to Hulk punching him in the stomach.

Sentry trying to blitz Hulk (but failing of course).

Sentry throwing combos on Hulk with energy blast.

And Sentry proceeding at attacking Hulk throughout the fight.


Here we have Sentry at first having the upperhand:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...5-0+%289%29.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...-0+%2810%29.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...-0+%2811%29.jpg
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http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...-0+%2813%29.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...-0+%2814%29.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...-0+%2815%29.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...-0+%2816%29.jpg
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http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...-0+%2818%29.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...-0+%2819%29.jpg

He even says "good". And you twisted what Hulk said. He said:
"YOU don't want this fight, Sentry". Not that he didn't want to fight the Sentry.

At the middle of the fight Sentry himself realizes he can't stop and the conversation implies Sentry wanted Hulk to calm him down.
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Not only that we even have Rick James state this:
Miek: "What are you worried about Rick Jones? He cant kill the Hulk."

Rick Jones: "No just everything ELSE on the planet."


Which further indicates that the Sentry was losing control. Meanwhile Sentry while holding back against Genis Vell (Photon) during New Thunderbolt # 14 was apparently releasing enough energy to destroy entire worlds, while still holding back and we can see the planet below start to crumble while they are fighting.
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So that Sentry going all out means very little, since I stated million times Sentry going all out=/=Sentry at his best.

When Hulk finally KOs Sentry, the first thing Sentry says is "Bruce... Thank you"
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads.../3261770-01.jpg

No one is even arguing against that World War Hulk didnt win that battle, but there is significant evidence that Sentry wanted to lose due to losing.

Again this is getting annoying. Notice my argument has not changed at all.



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He told Hulk thank you because he was finally able to unleash his power...experience what it feels like to let loose which was stated here.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/...ran1/wwh020.jpg

He would have never experienced this sensation if it wasn't for his fight with the Hulk. [/B]


Too bad the story writer of the story disagrees with you. Here is a reply from Greg Pak, the writer of World War Hulk.
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"Robert was on the verge of going too far, of expending so much energy that he could destroy everything and everyone around them."

"So when it comes to the very end, Robert thanks Bruce for pulling him back from the PRECIPICE."


Not because of the crap you were saying.

Precipice:
a situation of great peril

Peril:
serious and immediate danger


Notice how you and others cant really address the above. The reason why this debate is even still continue is because you're a fanboy that doesn't want to accept facts.

Give it a rest already. Everyone already agreed neither were at their best.

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There is a real short and easy answer here SENTRY MM = WWH dies


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My raptor sense is detecting a sock.


If that was directed at me you can do an IP address check. I mean you are a mod.

Again if that was directed at me.

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Writers words>>>yours.
he hardly remembers the comic in question (says so many times) and at the end asks the person asking the question if his answer is even congruent with what the kid is most likely staring at as they write


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