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AsbestosFlaygon
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Originally posted by Enyalus
Jesus H. Christ...

In-universe equal. Of course Thanos wasn't writing the comic books. He doesn't have that power. But all the power TOAA has or had inside the MU, was Thanos' to wield. Making him the in-universe equal of TOAA and Marvel's Supreme Being.

Just like The Presence is an in-universe depiction of DC's Supreme Being. He doesn't go around writing the scripts and comics. smile The writers do that. Still, The Presence is Supreme in the DC universe. Just like how Thanos was inside the Marvel Universe.

Please do not apply Marvel concepts to DC concepts.

The Presence is the Supreme being in DC IN and OUT of the comicverse.
Meaning, The Presence has total control over everything that transpires in the DCU.
The Presence represents both the writer/s and the in-universe Supreme being of DC.

Equating Thanos with THOTI to The Presence is like equating Michael and Lucifer to TOAA.

Again, please use analysis:
The Presence =/= TOAA >>> Thanos w/ THOTI =/= Michael and Lucifer


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The Presence is the Supreme being in DC IN and OUT of the comicverse.
Meaning, The Presence has total control over everything that transpires in the DCU.
The Presence represents both the writer/s and the in-universe Supreme being of DC.


Proof of this?

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Proof of this?

The presence basically says so to The Spectre.

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Proof of this?

Unfortunately, I do not have scans that I could use to insist this disposition for you to believe what I am trying to clarify.
Feel free to disagree with such a claim whenever you please.


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The presence basically says so to The Spectre.


I've read what you're talking about. He tells Spectre he exists in dimensions the Spectre doesn't know of.

...Okay. Not the same thing at all. Spectre doesn't have an incarnation in the 5th dimension. And Mxy messes with the writers, who Spectre also has no knowledge of. Is Mxy the Supreme Being of the DCU? No way.

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I've read what you're talking about. He tells Spectre he exists in dimensions the Spectre doesn't know of.

...Okay. Not the same thing at all. Spectre doesn't have an incarnation in the 5th dimension. And Mxy messes with the writers, who Spectre also has no knowledge of. Is Mxy the Supreme Being of the DCU? No way.

Are kidding me? The spectre has bitched imps. The spectre even says that the 5-D is not beyond judgment. You should read more DC.

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Why the heck was this debacle bumped?


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The presence basically says so to The Spectre.
he says this? The Presence represents both the writer/s and the in-universe Supreme being of DC.


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he says this? The Presence represents both the writer/s and the in-universe Supreme being of DC.

Since when are you trying to apply marvel's definition of Supreme being to DC?

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Since when are you trying to apply marvel's definition of Supreme being to DC?
thats a line from you

you posted that Presence said those things to Spectre in response to that quote


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Originally posted by kgkg
thats a line from you

you posted that Presence said those things to Spectre in response to that quote

No I said God basically says to Spectre that he is everything and Yet above everything. Careful reading ensures we don't have this problem again. Mkay. Kay.

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The Presence is the Supreme being in DC IN and OUT of the comicverse.
Meaning, The Presence has total control over everything that transpires in the DCU.
The Presence represents both the writer/s and the in-universe Supreme being of DC.

Proof : reply from you : The presence basically says so to The Spectre.


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THOI was claimed to be TOAA'S equal by thanos when he abosorbed it.
I'm pretty sure TOAA manipulated thanos to recreate the omniverse thus destroying Thanos himself in the process.

GOD (TOAA) created the universe by saying "let there be_______" and it existed. SO could thanos's power from what TOAA only had to speak of for it to be there.Surpass that 100% un-surpassable power of the creator?

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THOI was claimed to be TOAA'S equal by thanos when he abosorbed it.

False.

Eternity itself acknowledged that Thanos became the Almighty. (TOAA)

Thanos' 2008 bio confirms that Thanos became the one true Supreme being.
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I'm pretty sure TOAA manipulated thanos to recreate the omniverse
thus destroying Thanos himself in the process.

False.

Thanos made his own decision to re-create the Marvelvverse.
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GOD (TOAA) created the universe by saying "let there be_______" and it existed.

So did the Alien Entity.

And?
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SO could thanos's power from what TOAA only had to speak of for it to be there.
Surpass that 100% un-surpassable power of the creator?

No one said THOTI surpassed TOAA.

THOTI was TOAA's (Supreme being) power withIN the Omniverse.

Simple and plain.


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Thanks MR .Master big grin

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So why did TOAA put his own power in the omniverse?

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I Mean thats like a house fly abosrbing wikipedia

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Thanks MR .Master big grin

Anytime friend. cool
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Originally posted by boxy brown

So why did TOAA put his own power in the omniverse?

For the sake of a story. (because it's all created by TOAA after its all said & done)

But technically speaking,
TOAA created a flaw in the 616 reality,
this flaw was irreparable and thus was going to sunder all of Marvel.

There was no power sufficient enough to fix it,
ONLY the TOAA's power was up to the task,
so .. since TOAA never directly involves him/her/themselves in stories,
TOAA created a power source -
- that represented what TOAA's power would be withIN the Omniverse.
All of Marvel needed to be erased & re-created (even the LT)
with the exception of Warlock (the anomalous one) and Death (Thanos' love)

The only power capable of even affecting the LT is TOAA's power,
let alone erasing and re-creating him.
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I Mean thats like a house fly abosrbing wikipedia

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Should merge this with current thread


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Should merge this with current thread
I am too lazy to look back I wonder if I posted the scans I was mentioning to bran in this thread.


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