My bad. I should have said within the comic books.
By your logic, the Presence is also a play toy, even more than Thanos. The Presence has an equal (the Great Evil Beast), while Thanos was Almighty. The reason the Presence is a play toy by your logic is because the Presence was created by external forces AKA DC artists and writers (this was mentioned on panel) just like Thanos was.
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No. Thanos with the heart was a joke. he got bitched by a writer. The Presence has NEVER been anything but Omnipotent. Also, The GEB is another omnipotent Character.basically giving DC two Omnipotent Characters. When they merged, it was still just one Omnipotent character. you cant' have levels of omnipotence. No matter what some people like to suggest.
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Is this the presence of DC or of Vertigo to which you refer? Vertigo is a PART of DC. Thus The external forces that the vertigo Presence was refering to had to be the superlative Presence of DC.
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No that is not. What is stated on panel is that micheal's power spilling out would destroy all of creation. So how do you equate that as a big bang? That spawns a multiverse all at once. Big bangs create universes as I'm aware.
Well when the Vertigo company started it started in the DC universe and and Yahweh was the Presence. That is not the case now as Vertigo has separated from continuity. The Presence has never been seen outside of Vertigo.
But either way you look at it the external forces are the artists and writers because if it was the Presence, like you think, he would have said external force (without the s). Plus external means outside the comic world. The Presence is still within the comic world.
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Doesn't matter how you spin it, the presence in Lucifer's series, Is only shown as God of that collection of Multiverses. What about the other Vertigo multiverses? I am almost sure the spectre and the word and the endless have been in other verses, as well as the main dc. this would indicate that one being created all of this. The Presence oF DC. Thus any attempt to bring low the presence of DC is deconstructed upon the examination that the presence of DC is superior to the Presence of Vertio and is superlative of him. the presence of vertigo can only be constued as an aspect of the greater presence. Much like the Spectre has many Spectres and Michael has multiple aspects of himself.
I'm not spining anything. Besides, by your logic, all of Lucy's feats can go to hell since they're from Vertigo.
Thanos was the Almighty within the omniverse. It has been stated on panel, it has been stated in bios, and it has been stated from Marvel which cannot be debated.
So if you say that the Presence would beat Thanos w/ HOTI then you are essentially saying that DC's God is greater then Marvel's God, which is just wrong. It's a tie.
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WRONG. Thanos was Never marvel's God. He was less than Marvel's God. And Lucy's feats still count as he still defeated multiversal beings. He still controlled creation destroying power. Michael in DC still put a smack down on the spectre. So The michaels have to be in the same power level. Thus Luci Still pwned the power of God with nothing but his will.
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You called me a fool. And To suggest such just becuz I happen to think thanos was never god is silly. As long as he admits that he was duped by the master manipulator, and he didn't absorb death and worlock, then he was no god. He even questioned who might be out there to challenge him. What God doesn't know the answer to everything before the question even comes up? I have a legitimate argument that he was not God. Just becuz i'm not some dumb puppy who will roll over and accpet the general opinion means little to me. call me a fool all you wish. I could say the same of you for accepting such nonsense.
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Actually you should see the irony. And the reason I'm better than the person who got me banned, is that they obviously aren't very respectable to me. Not for getting me banned. It was thier right to do. But because I think they lack any superior knowlege of comics and that just let slip what ever comes to mind.
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The post didn't own anything. Eternity says do you think THE UNIVERSE will let you rule over it. he mentions no omniverse or multiverse. Omnipotence is thrown around like cookie dough in marvel. You'll excuse me if I don't think Thanos was god. He certainly didn't create anything. He just fixed something of someone elses. we also know that thanos later recants his statement. he thought he was the ruler of the marvel u, and then he admits that he was tricked by the mater manipulator. When has God ever been tricked? Since thanos was everything that God was.
What the hell are you talking about? First you're better than the person who got you banned because they aren't respectable to you. Then you're better than the person because you think "they lack any superior knowlege of comics and that just let slip what ever comes to mind."
Way to go nvr. The most brilliant thing I've ever heard!
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