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Schecter
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perhaps its much much simpler than that?
think of how many parents took their kids to see the departed.
or how much marketing towards children was invested.
whats the sum total of all departed action figures, happy meal toys, cartoon and comic book deals...etc?

answer to all of the above: none

regardless of what a piece of crap godzilla was, the kids ate it all up.
why? because they were programmed to do so through marketing strategies. and any family man or woman can tell you who calls the shots when it comes to what movies a family goes out to see.

for this reason, imho, box office numbers are not a reliable yardstick for quality of film, when marketing towards children is involved.

its sad really, since because of this it seems titanic will never be dethroned as the top grossing movie of all time. the colossal lump of crap that it is.

also, i ran a poll in the star wars PT forum, and while the opinions toward the PT were generally positive, about 50% pointed to the opinion that it does not quite stand up to the greatness of the OT.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f38/t448201.html

point is: you do not have the power to determine which opinions are a minority, just on the grounds that you said so. presumption proves nothing.

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If people ate up Godzilla as much as you say, it would have been a much bigger success, and we would have had American-made sequels by now.
Titanic is a good example of the kind of film we are talking about - a smash hit that people are absolutely in love with for awhile, but utterly disdain within a year or so and look back at in embarrassment. I did enjoy it, but couldn't care if I ever watched it again. It's also an example of what Hollywood calls a 'non-recurring phenomenon.' These are films that are successful beyond what any financial expert in the industry predicts; because their success is unpredictable, execs look at them nervously because their jobs depend on better forecasting. They also don't lend well to sequels.
You may think Transformers will be forgotten soon; I say it won't happen, with 20-plus years of history behind them with the toyline and various cartoon series. The movies have just jumped them up into even greater popularity. It's comparable to Star Wars, in that the appeal doesn't go away but goes to sleep for a while. Star Wars was dormant in the late 80's, but started to revive itself in the 90's with the new book series authorized by Lucasfilm, the 20th anniversary re-release & finally the prequels. Transformers was dormant for part of the 90's, but has re-awakened with a vengence.

Thanks for changing the title of your thread, by the way. That's more fair & balanced.

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it was changed against my will, which sabotages the whole point. it was unnecessary and forum-nazistic. wanna tone the title down? fine. overbearing and ridiculously oppressive over a nonmalicious opinion, but just frikin fine.
how about something relevant to the topic. there is already a TF critique thread which mist posted. why not just close this thread although no personal insults or attacks are either stated or implied?

this forum is getting really really weak. ('this forum' being the sum total of KMC)

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Last edited by Schecter on Sep 5th, 2007 at 11:46 PM

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