In that battle they stalemated...and Henshaw and SS were their standard selves.
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Well see now you didn't say that. If you had just told me that when I first posted( where I asked in fact) we might not even be having this conversation. How's his resistance to red sun radiation? And what's his big feat as far as K-nite resistance goes?
I didn't say that Henshaw couldn't scan Surfer for weaknesses if it's in character for him to do so. And I didn't suggest that he wouldn't shift his consciousness, it just doesn't seem like would do it right off the back. Of course now that I think about it, he'd know that it was in Surfer's powers to put him down so he might do just that. Hmm....I need to think about this now.
Honestly, in the mindset you seemed to have, I doubt you would have listened.
Henshaw stood directly in front of a meteor made of kryptonite and while it was deadly to Superman, it only weaknened him. The red sun thing has never been discussed or shown. Seeing as how much resistance standard Supes has to K radiation, it would be much much harder to take out borg with it...and that's only if Borg stays in pure kryptonian form. He has and can alter his form and transfer his mind at will.
Needless to say, in a standard vs match, they both have access to exploitable weaknesses on each other. It's a totally different battle than Superman vs Surfer.
Both have different ways of accomplishing the same things. In this scan he tells the Eradicator that he can make a weapon suited to each character he fights. Considering he was fighting 4 Super clones simultaneously, it's safe to say he can do it on the fly.
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One day I'll sit and do a respect thread for the guy...he's got some nice feats under his belt.
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Humans are afraid of the dark.
And yet… At the same time, we’re fascinated and bewitched by it.
Maybe that’s why humans drink the darkness that is coffee.
The mindset I was in? Don't act like I'm the one who made this into a big thing. Do even remember how this started?
Right out of the gate you just pronounced that Henshaw stomped Surfer because of the tech available in the fortress...
So I pointed out that Surfer has a significant ability to cancel out machinery, and brought up that I was unaware of any k-nite resistance he had which seemed to be a viable tactic at the time...
So you brought up the variety of tech in the fortress and implied that Surfer's bad showings against tech were numerous, when the opposite is actually true(he's got a few bad ones, but a far greater number of good showings)...
So I pointed out that Surfer's falling to tech is normally no more than PIS and listed the variety of tech that Surfer has dealt with since the variety of tech available seemed to be like a big deal to you...
Then you brought up a couple of the low showings...
So I brought up Superman(who I know your a fan of) because he also has plenty of instances of NOT using the powers that are available to him because I figured you could see the comparison there. I even suggested that we weight the good scans against the bad and see which was more numerous to convince you,..
So you brought up ANOTHER low showing, and said that I was being "fanboyish"...
So don't act like I'm the one that came looking for trouble here. You never addressed the k-nite issue and all you did was cling to Surfer's low showings to support your case. If you had actually contributed to the conversation this whole thing would have been different.
You did. So do you want to keep going with that or did you want me to answer your questions?
If that is how you are going to act when I step off the debate to a more neutral ground, let me know. I won't bother with the rest of that post since anyone can read the last few pages and can make up their own mind.
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Humans are afraid of the dark.
And yet… At the same time, we’re fascinated and bewitched by it.
Maybe that’s why humans drink the darkness that is coffee.
Seriously though, I answered your questions about kryptonite and the red sun radiation is an unknown variable.
Was there another question I missed?
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Humans are afraid of the dark.
And yet… At the same time, we’re fascinated and bewitched by it.
Maybe that’s why humans drink the darkness that is coffee.
The transmutation thing, but that may have been brought up on another thread now that I think about it. Does Henshaw have the ability to create things out of thing air?
Personally, I've never liked to regard the Surfer as someone who always wins, no matter what situation you put him in--though he may, May, have the power and versatility to handle (to some extent) nearly every situation.
There's just no fun in an indomitable character.
That said, I think Cyborg wins because of the home advantage, but I don't think it would be a curbstomp.
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What prevents Surfer from changing the entire Fortress from Advanced Krptonian tech to nothing but sand?
Because there really doesn't seem to be any reason at all and for some reason I think SS can overpower Supes Tech. No offense but Thanos tech>then Supes.
It's infinitely programmable, infinitely configurable, self replicating, and can adapt to anything.
The current fortress was made in seconds out of ice into a ridiculously high tech fortress.
And Cyborg will have complete control over it. Post IC, kryptonian tech seems to have gone back to silver age almost "magic" levels.
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No offense taken, especially since you're wrong. The original Eradicator program itself was stated to have infinite power. That and on top of all the insane kryptonian tech...Superman has artifacts and tech from enemies he's fought in there. Some of those items are magical as well as technological.
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Humans are afraid of the dark.
And yet… At the same time, we’re fascinated and bewitched by it.
Maybe that’s why humans drink the darkness that is coffee.
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Humans are afraid of the dark.
And yet… At the same time, we’re fascinated and bewitched by it.
Maybe that’s why humans drink the darkness that is coffee.
I agree that it is no fun to have an indomitable character.
In this case, it's a curbstomp. Classic Henshaw and SS would stalemate.
Taking Henshaw, and basically multiplying his power infinitely with insane tech and magical devices is a curbstomp on SS. With PIS turned off and Henshaw going for the kill, the odd's aren't good for Norrin.
Being able to overcome a lot of tech is good, but it still doesn't mean SS overcomes ALL tech. With the right stuff...he's really not hard to take out.
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Humans are afraid of the dark.
And yet… At the same time, we’re fascinated and bewitched by it.
Maybe that’s why humans drink the darkness that is coffee.
And yet it begins as a finite amount. So until you can prove otherwise SS can simply turn it into sand or atomize it all and the planet Earth it is on. There really isn't a reason why he couldn't.
I came to the conslusion based off of the things his tech has done.
i.e. Imprison a Warrior Madness Thor with the Power Gem in a shield
i.e. Transport complete armadas and armies to and from planets
i.e. Used it to turn Galactus into a Gun and imprison him
I think that puts Thanos tech higher than Supes considering nothing in his Fortress can duplicate those feats.
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