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Ok fine. You've made your point. Sorry to upset you. Yes, it's true I hadn't read any of this prior to posting, and I should have. As for the least-bloody theory, it seems to me the incendiary bat method would have worked, too.
He hasn't actually made any point, worth anything. Evidently he doesn't even know history.
Japanese surrendered before the bomb was dropped.
No it was not worth it. The effect of atomic bomb can be felt for generations, meaning it didn't just kill people there and then but generations and generations of people.
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Lil Bitchiness, you would do well to actually NOT live up to your name frequently, and if you actually bothered to STUDY IN THE LEAST the history you pretend to know.
I do not know many outright stupid, idiotic, and outright retarded claims as the one that the Japanese "surrendered" before the bomb was dropped. NOT A SINGLE PERSON, EVEN OPPONENTS OF THE BOMB, CLAIM THAT JAPAN SURRENDERED BEFORE THE BOMBS!
Your point on the Atomic bomb is obviously correct in the respect that it DID affect several generations. HOWEVER, I THINK THAT A WIDESPREAD EXTINCTION OF THE NATIVES OF THE COUNTRY ITSELF "might" have a larger impact on future generatiosn (or LACK thereof).
As for my points, if you would READ THE F*ING thread before commenting on it, you would come across my arguments. I think that reading two pages is within your modest capabilities, and I do not wish to copy-and-paste everything onto this post.
So, get your @$$ moving and read the thread, and do NOT come back until you have. I await a response.
I always assumed a lot more civilians then military were killed, so I just assumed. I haven't really read up on it much so I don't know too many details about it.
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I'm pretty sure they started to surrender after Hiroshima. Blowing up Nagasaki was a dick move considering the US dropped the bomb inside the time frame they gave for surrender.
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But they were just trying to intimidate the Soviet Union really.
The Tokyo control operator of the Japanese Broadcasting Corporation noticed that the Hiroshima station had gone off the air. He tried to re-establish his program by using another telephone line, but it too had failed.[33] About twenty minutes later the Tokyo railroad telegraph center realized that the main line telegraph had stopped working just north of Hiroshima. From some small railway stops within 16 kilometers (10 mi) of the city came unofficial and confused reports of a terrible explosion in Hiroshima. All these reports were transmitted to the headquarters of the Japanese General Staff.
Military bases repeatedly tried to call the Army Control Station in Hiroshima. The complete silence from that city puzzled the men at headquarters; they knew that no large enemy raid had occurred and that no sizeable store of explosives was in Hiroshima at that time. A young officer of the Japanese General Staff was instructed to fly immediately to Hiroshima, to land, survey the damage, and return to Tokyo with reliable information for the staff. It was generally felt at headquarters that nothing serious had taken place and that it was all a rumor.
The staff officer went to the airport and took off for the southwest. After flying for about three hours, while still nearly one hundred miles (160 km) from Hiroshima, he and his pilot saw a great cloud of smoke from the bomb. In the bright afternoon, the remains of Hiroshima were burning. Their plane soon reached the city, around which they circled in disbelief. A great scar on the land still burning and covered by a heavy cloud of smoke was all that was left. They landed south of the city, and the staff officer, after reporting to Tokyo, immediately began to organize relief measures.
Wow..Imagine being that Officer who first saw Hiroshima. He must have just been in a state of complete disbelief at the destruction.
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I tend to agree with you about the bombs. But the story I heard, Truman sent the threats and the Emperor responded, "nuts to you." Surrender wasn't as obvious then as it is now.
like, would the world be a better place if the bombs weren't dropped? Was there an aggregate prevention of death by dropping the bomb and ending the war?
It successfully did what the Americans wanted it to do, so if that is the measure we go by, then sure. But, like, without defining who is placing value on the act, its sort of moot.
I don't think Japan was going to win the war anyways, so its highly unlikely that anything in my life would be really different, and I'm sure if you were to ask a Japanese person dying of lymphoma, they might not think it was worth it.
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