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That would probably be the War in the North stuff. It diverges around the Rigaldo fight, so vol 10 or 11.


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I recently finished the anime, where would be the best place to begin in the manga now that i'm finished?


Seriously, start at the beginning.

It will take you less than 5 hours to catch up. It's some nice "right before bed" reading. big grin

Better than some of that other shit people read before bed.


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There's Databook stats:


Databook Stats

Categories
Yoki:
Agility:
Muscular Strength:
Spirit/Intelligence:
Perception:
Leadership:


Databook 1:
Clare, No. 47
E E E D C+ E

Teresa, No. 1
S A A A S B

Priscilla, No. 2
A+ A+ B+ D A+ C

Sophia, No. 4
B C A+ B B B

Noel, No. 5
B A+ C B B C

Irene, No. 3
A A B A+ B A

Elena, Claire's friend
D D D E D C




Databook 2:
Miria, No. 6
B+ A+ C B C A+

Deneve, No. 15
B+ B C C+ C C

Helen, No. 22
C+ C B C C D

Ophelia, No. 4
A A A C B+ C

Galatea, No. 3
A B B+ A A+ B




Databook 3:
Jean No. 9
B C B+ A+ C C

Rafaela, No. 5
A A A A A C

Flora, No. 8
B A C B C B

Undine, No. 11
C C A C C C+

Beth, No. 2
S A+ A+ A+ A+ E

Alicia, No. 1
S A+ A+ A+ A+ E


Spoiler: Awakened Being stats

Databook 2:

Categories
Yoki:
Agility:
Strength:
Invulnerability:
Intelligence:

Awakened Beings-
Priscilla, No. 2
EX SSS+ SSS S+ SS

Ophelia, No. 4
SS SSS SS S SS

Dauf, No. 3
SSS+ S SSS+ SSS C

Unnamed Male/First Awakened Hunt
SS SS S S+ SS

Unnamed, Single Digit/Ophelia hunt
SS+ SS SS S SS

Katea, No. 32
A S A A S

Hilda, No. 6
SSS+ SS+ SS S SS


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The new Claymore chapter is out.


[SPOILER - highlight to read]: The zombie no. #1 are kicking ass and the organization is scared of them. There's even one with an advanced version of Miria's technique.

I'll also add that despite being zombies revived with yoki after dying gruesome death they look f@cking gorgeous

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Dae is so funny! [SPOILER - highlight to read]: "What are you complaining about? I TOLD you that I picked them in order of strength!" big grin

So let's see, the weakest of the three is Dust Eater Cassandra, or at least so it seems, and she's being held off by three single digits. And Roxanne is the jerk picking on the twins.


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There's Databook stats:


Databook Stats

Categories
Yoki:
Agility:
Muscular Strength:
Spirit/Intelligence:
Perception:
Leadership:


Databook 1:
Clare, No. 47
E E E D C+ E

Teresa, No. 1
S A A A S B

Priscilla, No. 2
A+ A+ B+ D A+ C

Sophia, No. 4
B C A+ B B B

Noel, No. 5
B A+ C B B C

Irene, No. 3
A A B A+ B A

Elena, Claire's friend
D D D E D C




Databook 2:
Miria, No. 6
B+ A+ C B C A+

Deneve, No. 15
B+ B C C+ C C

Helen, No. 22
C+ C B C C D

Ophelia, No. 4
A A A C B+ C

Galatea, No. 3
A B B+ A A+ B




Databook 3:
Jean No. 9
B C B+ A+ C C

Rafaela, No. 5
A A A A A C

Flora, No. 8
B A C B C B

Undine, No. 11
C C A C C C+

Beth, No. 2
S A+ A+ A+ A+ E

Alicia, No. 1
S A+ A+ A+ A+ E


Spoiler: Awakened Being stats

Databook 2:

Categories
Yoki:
Agility:
Strength:
Invulnerability:
Intelligence:

Awakened Beings-
Priscilla, No. 2
EX SSS+ SSS S+ SS

Ophelia, No. 4
SS SSS SS S SS

Dauf, No. 3
SSS+ S SSS+ SSS C

Unnamed Male/First Awakened Hunt
SS SS S S+ SS

Unnamed, Single Digit/Ophelia hunt
SS+ SS SS S SS

Katea, No. 32
A S A A S

Hilda, No. 6
SSS+ SS+ SS S SS


This databook stuff makes no sense.


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Howso?


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This databook stuff makes no sense.


I agree with Q99, Claymore databooks actually make sense....which is more than I can say for some series[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Naruto

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The real problem with the Naruto ones is they have so many key factors that don't show up in it. Claymore, on the flip side? Everyone fights with swords. Nice and simple.


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The real problem with the Naruto ones is they have so many key factors that don't show up in it. Claymore, on the flip side? Everyone fights with swords. Nice and simple.


They friggin make Hidan stronger than Gaara in their databooks. Yeah....I kinda distrust them alot.

On topic though I'd seriously like to address how hot these ex. no#1 are. If there were a sexiest zombie contest I'm pretty sure they'd win or be in the high tier.

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They friggin make Hidan stronger than Gaara in their databooks. Yeah....I kinda distrust them alot.


The thing is, I agree with the individual stat ratings in those case. It's just that things top out at 5 and Gaara's sand control is worth far more, it's a special power.

Hidan's stamina is high because he won't die. Gaara's is high because he grew up a jinchuuriki, giving a lot more useful chakra. And so on.

Gaara wins because of uncharted factors.



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If there were a sexiest zombie contest I'm pretty sure they'd win or be in the high tier.


Because a sexy zombie contest has so much competition wink


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Howso?


They created stupid categories like SSS and EX. Stupid.

It's like he just threw on arbitrary labels for funsies onto his favorite characters.


I actually like Naruto's ninja databook better...and I like your ninja ranks the best.


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Ah yes. While have a 'special' rank, 'multiple special' rank, and 'exception' rank is kinda silly, they should've just started lower, it still does manage to convey the information.

The one issue I have with it is that the Awakened beings universally have stats equal or higher to a number 1, even ones that high-level Claymore have handled solo (Ophie's known for solo-hunting them after all, and Teresa ripped Rosemary apart), though I suppose that can be chalked up to them having the vulnerability of a large, much bulkier body, and no sword.


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The one issue I have with it is that the Awakened beings universally have stats equal or higher to a number 1, even ones that high-level Claymore have handled solo (Ophie's known for solo-hunting them after all, and Teresa ripped Rosemary apart), though I suppose that can be chalked up to them having the vulnerability of a large, much bulkier body, and no sword.


That was one source of irritation for me, as well.

It's like there's no rhyme or reason to the ranks.

The only "exception" would be Priscilla. She's the only one that could be considered stupid strong in speed and everything else.

Also, of all the characters, Clare should have the highest rank in spirit.

I think all the ranks should have stopped at S, including for abyssal ones.

Also, "leadership" should be completely thrown out as both Claymore AND awakened beings are primarily solo characters. It wasn't until the war in the North that you saw much cooperation among the claymore AND awakened beings.






More on topic. I dislike the fact that the former number ones are soloing a group of people that made single digit ranks look weak. That's just stupid and annoying. It will be believable if they say something like, "these are much stronger than even abyssal ones" due to x. Whatever x is, it had better damn well be a good explanation.


Also, one of the brethern DID remark on how strong Dae made them...so I guess that is the decent explanation for now.



Finally.....BRING BACK CLARE, DAMNI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!11!1111!!1


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Also, of all the characters, Clare should have the highest rank in spirit.


She's not the smartest Claymore around though smile Also she didn't start out good at resisting awakening either.

Of all the stats, that's the one that is the least clear from the name. It's obviously not pure willpower.

I believe it's the ability to control one's own yoki and resist awakening- Irene's quicksword was so dangerous because she had such better control than Clare and she stressed her ability to do so, after all, and Jean was incredibly hard to break and make transform, and they both have very high ratings. Alicia and Beth also have A+ despite being emotionless, and that is precisely what their training is about, controlling it.

Priscilla and Ophelia both have very low ratings despite their strength, and both awakened easily.

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I think all the ranks should have stopped at S, including for abyssal ones.


The problem with that is every high-ranking Awakened will then have strait Ss, telling you nothing about how they compare to each other.

Unless they change the starting point, at least.

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Also, "leadership" should be completely thrown out as both Claymore AND awakened beings are primarily solo characters. It wasn't until the war in the North that you saw much cooperation among the claymore AND awakened beings.


I disagree, it's specifically brought up as important during Abyssal hunts where groups are the norm (as well as dealing with big Yoma nests, and taking down high-ranks rogues who don't submit), and stressed heavily Miria's greatest strength, how in group fights she's the best leader the Org has despite only being #6.

It doesn't matter in solo fights, but even before the war in the north it's a factor that comes up reasonable often for higher rank warriors.

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More on topic. I dislike the fact that the former number ones are soloing a group of people that made single digit ranks look weak.


Number 1s usually make other single digit ranks look weak, though. These are 3 of the top #1s ever, and recall that Teresa barely had any trouble with an entire group of rather badass single digits (Priscilla excepted). So this is three almost-Teresas they're fighting.

Also remember, Miria is the only one of the Northern 7 there right now. The rest are all current warriors. Lesse... there's #3, 5, and 9 in Single Digits there. All the other single digits are either dead, missing, or with the rest of the Northern Warriors at the northern pass (or in Miata's case, with Galatea).

So it's not exactly a stocked lineup. They're really lucky the twins are there.


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Another possible reason why the ex no#1. are so strong is because Dae used Priscilla's arm to bring them back. They might get extra power from her left over yoki.

Also this generation of Claymore actually seems weaker to me than Clare's so that could also be a plausible cause.

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