Problem is you can't prove that Revan is anywhere near Jacen in lightsaber ability (which is the only way in which Jacen rivals Luke in ability, and the only way he was able to put up a fight against him), not that the fight would necessarily come to a saber duel anyway.
I am not talking about Revan's Light Saber skills over here.
Though Drew made it clear that Revan was a skilled swordsman and that he had such a firm control over his fighting style that it was easy for him to unleash Force attacks during duels.
And as you have already hinted, fights do not necessarily involve long saber duels.
That is an unsupported claim. Darth Caedus could only contend with an inconceivably reckless and brassed off Luke (think of Kenobi v. Skywalker) in a lightsaber duel. Prove that Revan is superior to Jacen in dueling ability.
Yes, and quite comfortably.
You say this every time. The point is that 'Drew' hasn't, and Revan is still not on par with Luke.
Edit: Wouldn't that be great if the Revan Fan Brigade who voted would be so kind as to offer arguments in favor of him?
Luke will win because he's the hero. The battle goes as follows: Luke activates some Dues Ex Machina Bull and automatically gets better in lightsaber dueling and the force than Revan. Luke proceeds to decapitate him.
__________________ Jedi! You are sourrunded. Your army is decimated. Make peace with the force now for this is your final hour. But know that ,I, General Grievous am not completly without mercy. I will grant you a warriors death. Prepare...... -General Grievous-
I am not arguing about Revan's saber skills but then again you cannot say that he sucked or could not contend with the greatest saber duelists in SW mythos.
Revan's author already has hinted that Revan was a skilled duelist. This point alone makes it clear to us that Revan was no slouch when it came to saber dueling. No I know that this is not enough so now we shall look at some canon events:
1) When the “Jedi Strike Team” came to face Revan on his flagship, Revan looked confident and was ready to fight them off with just his skills with the Light Saber alone. He was actually sending a statement to the "Jedi Strike Team" that his skills with the Light Saber would be enough.
2) He disarmed Malak on the Star Forge with his dueling abilities. Now Malak was an exceptional saber duelist. He was famous in the entire Jedi Order of his age for his exceptional dueling abilities and his dueling involved elements of Juyo as well. This statement was mentioned in the KOTOR website: "Though only a young man, his skill in battle and prowess with the lightsaber had already earned him renown within the Order."
He also used a longer Light Saber to give him higher chance to hit his opponents. You can ask Drew and he will confirm my point.
So we do have some indications that Revan’s dueling abilities were indeed exceptional. You can't kill the best of your age with just words.
Something that you really don’t need to tell me!
Luke can defeat most Sith Lords comfortably. He is better then even Sidious.
Still I don’t think that it would be a very easy victory for Luke in this case. Like it or not, it was mentioned in POD that Revan knew some very deadly techniques. So if he knows them, then he can surely use them on his opponents.
Who said that Revan is on par with Luke? No one did because every one knows that no one actually is on par with Luke.
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Luke takes this obviously, He's got Revan beat in every catagory, Lightsaber, force, all of it. Really, sending Luke against anyone 1v1 is pointless now.
Why are you making an argument for Revan, legend? You were the one in the first place by saying " of cadeus can do this than revan can do that" you seem feel that in EVERY conflict involving Revan you need to reminds of something Revan did/is. Even when you admit he is gonna lose like in this case you seem to feel you need to mention something of his so no one said he sucked.
Like here for instance you are mentioning his saber skills when no one said they sucked. Rather it is a little bit of a stretch to say he can contend with Luke in saber combat and put up a fight to injure Him like Jacen did. This is the type of stuff that pisses gideon off(and others most likely) because you ALWAYS need to say something about Revan or most kotor characters even when they are going to lose and lose quite comfortably like in here or in the thread regarding HK vs Grievous for example.
Last edited by Elite Hunter on Sep 21st, 2007 at 10:39 AM