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neither one of them had an effect on the comic industry as say like superman or spider-man did. Atleast storm is the most endearing black female comic book superhero she's way more important that the other x men in that regard. That's what this top ten is about


The thread said it was about influence.

Cyclops' role as 'good guy team leader' and Wolverine's role as 'bad boy rebel loner' and the interaction between them pretty much set the stage for dozens and dozens of teams to come.

That's influence on the industry.

Storm being the most recognized black female superhero really can't compare.


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The X-Men should be listed just like the Fantastic Four and that's as a whole. If there's an exception to made there, its Logan and only Logan.


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Originally posted by Validus
The X-Men should be listed just like the Fantastic Four and that's as a whole. If there's an exception to made there, its Logan and only Logan.
Agreed X-men, FF, Spiderman, Superman,Batman, WW should all be there. I think Spawn also needs a place, Although there were several ( adult oriented) comics before Spawn he seemed to bring the whole antihero thing to the mainstream even moreso than characters like the punisher who was still a pretty decent guy all things considered.


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Originally posted by Soljer
The thread said it was about influence.

Cyclops' role as 'good guy team leader' and Wolverine's role as 'bad boy rebel loner' and the interaction between them pretty much set the stage for dozens and dozens of teams to come.

That's influence on the industry.

Storm being the most recognized black female superhero really can't compare.
both of their impacts on the comic industry is minimal at best and wolverine's contribution is worse a rebel loner who's always on a team is an oxymoron if i've ever seen on. Storm is a black female character in a mostly white industry that is far more important than anything those two would ever represent.


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both of their impacts on the comic industry is minimal at best and wolverine's contribution is worse a rebel loner who's always on a team is an oxymoron if i've ever seen on. Storm is a black female character in a mostly white industry that is far more important than anything those two would ever represent.
You think Storm has influenced the comic industry more than Wolverine? no expression

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You think Storm has influenced the comic industry more than Wolverine? no expression


Exactly.

Regardless of who YOU may like more, Wolverine has had a MUCH larger influence on the comic industry.


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You think Storm has influenced the comic industry more than Wolverine? no expression
yes i do. what has wolverine given that was of any importance compared to the likes of superman and batman? Atleast storm played a major role as an important female black super hero in a mostly white male industry


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yes i do. what has wolverine given that was of any importance compared to the likes of superman and batman? Atleast storm played a major role as an important female black super hero in a mostly white male industry

Importance =/= Influence


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most importaint comic characters of all time. This is to rank the mos infuantial comic characters ever. Not the most iconic
there's not many of her kind i think that's a huge infuance


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there's not many of her kind i think that's a huge infuance

Really? I'd call that being unique.


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Really? I'd call that being unique.
so's batman what's ur point


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lets see.

Logan is what pritty much revolutionized anti hero's.

Logan was the original bad ass loner.

Logan interraction with cyclopes would be copied into other teams for years to come

ect.

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so's batman what's ur point

*face in palms* I'll ignore the fact that you're wrong here.

Seriously though, whats your point? You've named reasons why Storm is important and unique, neither of which have anything to do with influence. Capisce?


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namor was the original bad ass loner not logan

the scope of his impact on comics is insignifigant.

i'll put it this way we the comic world would have done just fine without wolverine or cyclops but it would not have progressed as far without like likes of wonderwoman and storm primaraly because they are female superheros and strom because she is a black superhero and when you look at it there's not that many around in comparison to the white heros so looking at it from that point of view which is what this thread is about she is more important than those two they haven't made the sort of impact that is fundamental for the comic industry


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the change i'm talking about is more dynamic to comics the change wolverine brought was nothing more than a flashy fad


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Storm has made no impact on comics, if she was to utterly disappear, I wouldn't be bothered, nor would the comic industry be any less sucessful.

Claremont probably would just have one less character to wank over though.

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Storm has made no impact on comics, if she was to utterly disappear, I wouldn't be bothered, nor would the comic industry be any less sucessful.

Claremont probably would just have one less character to wank over though.
so one of the only black female superheros in comic is not an important step in comics to you?


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nope.



thats like saying becuase northstar is gay he had a massive impact on comics...........yet if north star disapeared no one would give a crap

please if wolverine vanish marvel would be screwed

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Superman

Batman

Spider-Man

Wonder Woman

Hulk

X-Men

Captain America

Fantastic 4


Everyone, even non comic readers and fans know who the above characters are.

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