I didn't say that you said that. That's the impression I get from the case, which is what I was addressing.
It's not their fault, they are actually creating it. It's undeniable. Who else is? The police are telling them the information, but as I said, I don't say they are blameless.
Yeah, well. I'm not.
Apparently it wasn't enough. They were very young to be unsupervised, in my opinion- but not for the reasons that transpired, more to do with what can occur in homes when children aren't supervised properly.
The family were on holiday in Portugal. The parents were at a bar, quite close to their apartment, and the children were left back at the apartment. They came to check on them at intervals.
The media don't; it's gold for them.
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Yeah and furthermore even if they had left them for a much shorter time they probably still would have got blamed. As far as im concerned the police dont really give a **** and their like "oh well another kid has gone missing."
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Because a 5, 1 and 2 year old can clearly look after themselves better then any babysitter could.
The McCanns f*cked up. If this happened in OUR country they'd be prosecuted. Just because your in a place where leaving your kid alone isn't illegal doesn't mean you should do it.
Until she is found, dead or alive, or decisive evidence is found nothing can be ruled out.
Kids that young shouldnīt be left alone imo. They can drown, get electric shocked, fall of the balcony and a whole bunch of other dangers. Especially in a foreign environment in a country where the standards arnīt the same as the original (UK) (electrical cables, balcony etc).
Older kids, say from 8 years if they are that far, ok. For an hour or two.
The press and the family are making a mint out of this event, no matter how sad it is.
I canīt imagine the parents being able to keep it quite this long if they had anything to do with it, sheīs their daughter and they are human someone would have broken down by now.
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As I said There is no legal minimum age when you can leave your child at home alone.
There is no legal minimum age when you can leave your child at home alone. It's up to the parents to decide when they think their children are ready to be left, and it is probably one of the hardest decisions you make as your child gets older. It's not helped by all the horror stories you hear in the media, homes burning down, strangers at the door, Madeline McCann. As parents we want to protect our children, but we must also teach them how to rely on themselves and be independent from us.
The thing about that is, and I don't speculate either way, the reactions of having done it, and having had her abducted wouldn't necessarily be that different.
Err, no, they would not be prosecuted, that is absolutely ridiculous.
As to saying that you cannot leave them alone in case they electrocute themselves... she was in bed! You saying you need to stay with them all darn night?
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That's actually not true. It's all about "risk assessment". The McCanns would argue they were checking on Maddie more than they would overnight if she was sleeping and so the risk were assessed.
The law does not set a minimum age at which children can be left alone. However, it is an offence to leave a child alone when doing so puts him or her at risk.
How do you decide if you can safely leave a child alone?
There are many important things to consider before you decide to leave a child alone. These include:
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Whether the child is at risk is what social services would investigate. If you were reported to be leaving a five year old at home, to social services, you would be investigated. They will look at your reasons for doing so, any kind of dangerous materials in the house (this could even be something like an iron).
My dad's the director of social services in the south west, I've heard some horrible stories of parents and children having to be parted.
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Social Servies might investigate, personally I would doubt it given the fact two health professionals the people social services go to for advice had done the risk assessment. That aside if a child is being checked on as often as they say, it would be debateable if it was even considered left alone. Social services in a case where a death or abduction had occurred would investigate. I doubt again given the parental risk assessment they would be able to do anything and given these parents positions I am certain they would not.
Just a bit of advice Chil, it's not agood idea to give out personal info online, particularly if your dad has a high ranking public sector job. I've edited who your Dad is out of my post, you might want a Mod to do that to the post above.
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