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Japanese Rock is definitely not dying.

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....


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i actually like japanese rock happy

and the other rock is DEFINITELY dying
with new people like soulja boy (who i fckin hate with all my heart) are totally getting hella fans and whatnot
never really was into rock though....
'cept japanese rock laughing out loud


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Trends die as do the interests of tourist rock-fans.

I can still listen to classic shit.

It never dies.

Only in the ear of the beholder.


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It depend on what you mean by "dying". I think in a couple of years rock may become what jazz and classical music is today. An art form. People attend schools and analyze every inch of it. You don't really see that now. But I think in a generation of two we will have real professional rock schools. That might in some peoples eyes be the death of Rock'n roll.


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It depend on what you mean by "dying". I think in a couple of years rock may become what jazz and classical music is today. An art form. People attend schools and analyze every inch of it. You don't really see that now. But I think in a generation of two we will have real professional rock schools. That might in some peoples eyes be the death of Rock'n roll.


rock already is studied.

I dont think it is possible for Rock to become any more of an establishment than it already is. There will surely be fluctuations in its popularity, as well as plummits. It will however never transcend impact it already holds in the music industry. Rock was solidified as a legitimate and lasting genre in the 70's. New styles of rock may be birthed. Just as new styles of all music is constantly being experiemented with. I believe there will be a completely new genre birthed from the inluences of rock and many other popular contemperary music genre's.
The only new peaks rock as a genre can ascend to is its status of popularity in the mainstream


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It depend on what you mean by "dying". I think in a couple of years rock may become what jazz and classical music is today. An art form. People attend schools and analyze every inch of it. You don't really see that now. But I think in a generation of two we will have real professional rock schools. That might in some peoples eyes be the death of Rock'n roll.
Jazz isn't erudite music yet. Rock becoming erudite wouldn't necessarily mean it was dead, but the principles behind it's creation obviously would be.

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Hence the idea that rock is more than just certain eligible techniques.

You can go to a school and learn how to play rock technically, but if it sounds like Nickleback then there's a problem.

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my friends band are kinda uprising

listen to their music on myspace:


http://profile.myspace.com/index.cf...endid=187450807

they won a competition in school and recorded a cd


offset are going to be on the radio!!! its like bat dudes idea but not him doing it laughing out loud


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Hence the idea that rock is more than just certain eligible techniques.

You can go to a school and learn how to play rock technically, but if it sounds like Nickleback then there's a problem.

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A School of Rock...? Sounds like a bad movie.

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Yeh, Rock is studied. And yes, no you can't "learn" how to play rock or jazz in schools only. But still jazz schools are more common than rock schools. And still most jazz musicians attend musical schools before creating their own perspective of music. In Sweden for instance you have to be able to play jazz to attend the finer musical schools. Sucks to be a rock guitarist then. Luckily for me I adore jazz, but most people don't stick out tongue
In the U.S rock has found it's way in to the school world, but you have to admit that it's not as widely spread as jazz and classical music.
So even if rock as a school subject is becoming more usual, its not as common as jazz and classical music studies. No music, can be entirely erudite. But I daresay that jazz is more so than rock is.


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rocks been dead for about 15+ years....imho


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rocks been dead for about 15+ years....imho
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People tend to equate the length of time rock has been dead with the amount of time their youth has been gone.

Maybe it's a coincidence.

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People tend to equate the length of time rock has been dead with the amount of time their youth has been gone.

Maybe it's a coincidence.

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my youth died way after the death of rock.

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you eat poop


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Then you're an exception from what I can see.

Many people, in fact, all the ones I've seen usually have, to some degree, this base: "I remember when...", then trail off into a story of the music that laced their youth.

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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Then you're an exception from what I can see.

Many people, in fact, all the ones I've seen usually have, to some degree, this base: "I remember when...", then trail off into a story of the music that laced their youth.

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well, imso the music i listened to in my youth was a bite off of music from the last generation, but they still had something to add. when i listen to metal, for example, i cant tell what was released this year and what was released 20 years ago. maybe my old ancient crusty ears are missing out on significant nuances, but then again, maybe its all just carbon copy retro metal passed off as new and cutting edge.

i think the last bit of creativity in rock was bouncing around in kurt cobain's brain just before he blew it out.

:edit: there are exceptions, im not arguing an absolutist opinion. just that the exceptions can be counted on one hand...imso stick out tongue


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Considering bands like The Melvins, Patton stuff etc all came before, I'd disagree, but to each their own.

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can we at least agree that bardock eats poop?


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Rock is not dead. And it certainly didn't die with that hack Kurt Cobain.

I imagine he became famous the same way Steve Martin chose to take that lamp with him at the end of The Jerk. Some producer was stumbling around Seattle and just pointed at him and said "Oh, I NEED this..."


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I think that's slightly unfair.

Just because Nirvana were vastly overrated, not even the best of the "grunge" bands to come out, doesn't mean Cobain was a hack by ANY means.

My opinion of how The Beatles are rated is well known, I still think they're a good band though.

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