Nice.. how about answering the question this time?
"Why do you think he put his claws in namor's face?"
And... you still missed the point even after calling it obvious... did you miss the sarcasm when I was pointing out the obvious?
"I'm not wolverine so I couldn't tell you... but you honestly don't expect wolverine to not have expected namor to back down?
Come one its clear that Wolverine was attempting to scare Namor... I mean its obvious to you and I that it was a bad move. But that doesn't change the fact that in Wolverine's mind he couldn't back down.
And did you note that as was said earlier, Wolverine's cheap shot hit an area that was non vital like last time? So even after the situation escalated to violence Wolverine was not trying to really kill Namor. A cheap shot to the face or throat would have been much more effective."
Sop you're saying that Wolverine getting punched was stupidity on his part... for the sake of having these to fight... So stupidity for the sake of the plot? Interesting that you're going to argue that it was PIS rather than admiting it was an unexpected blow, and thus disproving your own point... You'd rather get the whole fight thrown out just so you don't have to admit that its bad reasoning that "A sucker punch shows that's the only way a person can be hit."
See this is why its alot faster to just point out that your flawed arguments are under a certain name rather than trying to show you how they're flawed. Because people defend their fallacies to the death bad enough when they're told which fallacy it is.
Is that by choice that you don't want to see it? Or did you legitimatly not understand?
An argument from silence.
"You didn't deny it so it must be true."
"Do you know your wife's password to her Bank account?"
"Yes."
"What is it?"
"I'm not telling you."
"That's because you don't know."
Yeah, great reasoning, he didn't deny it so it must be true. Much like a little kid, you didn't say no so that means yes!
Or a rapists...
And?
Do you know what a false dilemma is? Its where a person presents two choices where a third option is ommited... Its rather leading and is intellectually dishonest. Hence why it isn't logically valid.
Your question is a false dilemma. I'm not going to fall for your trap.
Oh wonderfull... I raped her because she was asking for it by dressing so provocatively.
Guys, RELAX! Is it really the end of the Marvel Universe that Namor got the better of Logan? Namor went to seek help and was confronted by Wolverine. Logan put his claws to Namor's head, then Namor punched him to a roof top. More talk about his mission and Namor gave his hand to Wolverine to help him up, then Wolverine plunged his claws through Namor's chest and punched him off the roof. Wolverine jumped off the roof in front of Namor. Namor punched Logan into a brick wall. Instead of following up on that punch, Namor went for a swim. Logan activates and energy field over the pool so Namor swam through the pool wall, grabs Logan and throws him into the ground causing a crater and immobilizing Wolverine in the process. Logan says every organ in his body is crushed but his healing is working already and he'll be up soon. Namor reminds Logan that he tried to kill him only moments ago via a clumsy effort. Logan calls Namor duck lips and Long John Silver and then Professor X enters the scene.
That's exactly what happened. There's nothing stating anything else. They fought and Namor came out on top. There's no "He wasn't trying to kill Namor", "He was only trying to scare Namor", "Logan's healing wasn't at full capacity due to something from 2 weeks ago", "Logan wasn't trying", "Logan fought like an idiot", etc, etc, etc.... To think otherwise is just inserting a bias into an on panel fight. Does this mean Namor wins every time? No. It means Namor won this time which happens to be the most recent fight between them. Namor is a warrior with super human strength, speed, durability, reflexes, flight, etc. Is it really out of the realm of possibilities for Namor to win against Wolverine?
People can't call foul and make excuses every time Logan loses. That's the reason people get sarcastic and bash on these threads when it pertains to certain characters. Superimposing personal thoughts, what ifs, nah ahs and hyperbole onto an on panel fight doesn't take away the from the result. Wolverine lost, plain and simple. So what? Every character loses in comics. It doesn't take away from the Wolverine character.
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Last edited by Badabing on Aug 17th, 2007 at 06:05 PM
"Of course Wolverine put his claws in his face to threaten him."
Are you paying attention.
I didnt miss any point, what has that got to do with him not being able to dodge Namors punch?
*sigh*
I could be wrong but Wolverines is a kinda "Hey **** you man!" when he disagrees with people, he tends to speak up.
Or a rapists...
And?
OH HELL NO!! You aksed me to answer a question (after I already answered it), so now you answer mine.
"So your telling me an intellignet bouncer would assume that everybody they will intimidate will back down OR will they keep in the back of their mind that there might be trouble just in case."
He didnt do anything wrong he said you were biased and you decided to report him. Good grief.
You can say that again but from what I can see all that happened was that Tick said he was biased...thats not even sarcasm.
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Last edited by Deadline on Aug 17th, 2007 at 06:07 PM