karate kid is a dc character who knows all the martial arts styles of the universe....he's trained so much and so effectively over his short life that he's able to harness his chi enough to the point where he's pretty much only matched by superman-level characters....he's destroyed entire alien starships with super empowered karate chops and can rend through diamonds... he's a very uber powerful character and pretty cool too....the karate kid threads on here have lists of his more admireable feats...check them out....
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wait...where is he hitting the class 100 marker...the sheet I see has him at a six out of seven on strength levels....does it say otherwise in the bio above? I can't read the words..
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
<<<"I just can believe that Wolverine can take punches from class 100 characters without even flinching. He weighs 300 lbs, a punch should send him flying like an piece of paper. Even if he wouldn't go flying, the damage done to his brain should at least slow him down a bit. Namor can punch him very fast, he could do massive damage to him before he would go down. And Namor has taken shots from Hulk, Thor the original X-Men, and the entire rosters of Avengers and they had made him only angrier. That crossover was crap on many things.">>>
that crossover isn't what I'm debating...I'm debating whether or not namor based on his power/s can take logan on land...I don't think he can on average...I think he can beat logan...just that it's more likely logan would win on land not him.....I agree logan should be sent flying by class 100 punches...but class 100 punches are nothing new to logan in the least...this guy takes said punches on a semi-regular basis.....Hurt his brain? it's not likely...think of all the times logan got KOed by brute force....they were back in the day....back when logan was still relatively new to fighting super heroes and villains...before that he was just a government agent who fought against normal guys....NOW wolverine's brain overlaps it's own memories because his healing factor overcompinsates for the amount of pain that would be caused to wolverine if the memories were to be triggered... from there we can assume that logan's healing factor has a sense of preservation instinct that allows it to adapt itself to dangerous situations....If his brain develops tissue that keeps him from triggering painful memories in order to protect his brain in the sense of mental health...why is it so hard to believe that his head would overdevelop tissues comparative to HOMER SIMPSON SYNDROME to protect his brain in the sense of physical health? Now consider wolverine used to get KOed by vindicator and sasquatch and hulk....back when he first started fighting super empowered enemies....now he takes all those shots and then some...my theory is that his healing factor has learned over time to adapt his body to various situations in order to compensate for the superhuman attacks he has to suffer through....
anyways....that may or may not be a relivant point but this is certain...wolverine takes shots from class 50-100 characters a lot and doesn't get KOed, when he does get KOed it's usually because he gets caught with a sucker punch, or there's something already wrong with him (slowed down powers, been poisioned, etc)...he even held his own to said punches when he had his bone claws and he survived long enough to regain his adamantium......is it ridiculous? sure...maybe..depends on whether or not you want to accept marvel for what it is.....fantasy.
can logan do the things he's done? considering how many times logan has consistantly gone toe to toe with said strength class characters.....yes. to say otherwise is to either neglect his abilites because you don't like him or to be completely ignorant of his character...
<<<-Namor would not have cared much about the first slash that Wolverine made. Neither he would have been so stupid that he would just have stand in one place and let Wolverine slash him. And in their earlier fights, Wolverine's claws didn't do much damage to Namor. And Namor used the metal pole in his advantage in that fight in Enemy of the State. Wolverine was nearly knocked out by that hit. And Namor punched Wolverine many times in his skeleton and didn't seem to be bothered much about it. That fight was crap in other things too...Namor hit Wolverine and he wasn't even hurt much. Then USAgent comes and knocks him down? Not very believable. Then they just...ran away from Wolverine. And Wolverine was seemingly untouchable by the flames that surrounded him.->>>
so you don't think wolverine's ability to hit namor twice had anything to do with the fact that A) namor may have been in shock from the first blow? or B) wolverine's a fast lil midget?...wolverine was knocked away by the pole..not close to knocking him out...there are no quotes or narrarations that would imply otherwise..considering how the fight continued from there on..that's nothing more than a opinionated and wrong statement....Why would namor's punches incapcitate wolverine so badly in your mind? especially when hulk punches cannot? us agent came in and shot wolverine then blew him up...he didn't exactly go toe to toe with logan now did he?
<<<"Namor is experienced fighter.">>>
true but wolverine's better.
<<<-He is over 85 years old.->>>
fine....but wolverine's older
<<<-He has fought all the major heroes of Marvel and won many of the fights.->>>
as has wolverine...but he's been stalemated by dd and koed by captain america too...what's your point?
<<<-He is faster and stronger then Wolverine.->>>
coincidently neither of those qualities are something wolverine's had huge problems with in the past....he's not faster than speed demon and no stronger than hulk....btw slightly faster in h2h which really doesn't mean much compared to a guy that can immobilize him just by hitting him with his claws once (even if on accident). and not strong enough to get past wolverine's adamantium skull.....
<<<-If they both are written realistically, Namor could take Wolverine out easily. ->>>
oy.....another lets use realism in a COMIC BOOK debate plea eh? lol....
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Wolverine is peak human in all aspects besides DURABILITY, and REGENERATION, he takes damage no differently than we do, and he simply acceleratess what we already do, bottom line, he isn't faster nor stronger, and has a HUGE disadvantage, he may have to swipe, but namor could outrange him with FLIGHT, and pic up something large like a BUS, and leave it on wolverine, go back underwater, and continue his quest.
What do you see the chances are in this for wolverine???
(Pfft, never thought I was gonna defend Wolverine against a powerhouse. Namor still wins 7 or 8/10, but Wolverine has a small chance too.)
Could this be the beginning of a new Era ?
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wolverine would have killed the hulk if it was not for his mind telling him not to. he has stabbed clean through the thing in "wolverine: enemy of the state", electra beats him because he goes easy on women when he is sane, and has proven that spiderman's punches are nothing to him
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