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Scathan the Approver vs The Living Tribunal
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Priest
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Yo Mr. M, wudup

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Yo Mr. M, wudup


Chillin, my connection was down for 2 weeks, but I have returned.


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Mr. M, what about Scathan using what seemed like a basic Celestial muzzle to trap Protege?


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Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Mr. M, what about Scathan using what seemed like a basic Celestial muzzle to trap Protege?


What can I say,
Scathan being a Celestial shouldn't have been able to do what he did to begin with,
they desensitized me to surprises right after the initial shock.

The way I see it, since imo TOAA was behind all this,
nothing Scathan did should be unbelievable.

You know I how I feel inside about all this (PIS)

but it's canon so ... until further info is illustrated or updated in a bio, it is what it was.


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Originally posted by Mr Master
What can I say,
Scathan being a Celestial shouldn't have been able to do what he did to begin with,
they desensitized me to surprises right after the initial shock.

The way I see it, since imo TOAA was behind all this,
nothing Scathan did should be unbelievable.

You know I how I feel inside about all this (PIS)

but it's canon so ... until further info is illustrated or updated in a bio, it is what it was.
Ya, but it seemed like he used a weapon that you could get at the Celestial market for 10 Celestial dollars, down on Maine.


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Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Ya, but it seemed like he used a weapon that you could get at the Celestial market for 10 Celestial dollars, down on Maine.


laughing


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Chillin, my connection was down for 2 weeks, but I have returned.
glad to see u back.


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glad to see u back.


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Originally posted by Mr Master
big grin
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were u going through kmc withdrawal?


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Originally posted by Mr Master
I agree with this.

Only now that builds a new paradox, which is,

is Scathan always backed by TOAA, or was this a special case?

Until further notice from Marvel, I, we, can't say for sure.

Guess we'll have to wait.


If Scathan was always backed up by TOAA, then he would be second only to TOAA and the LT would be third to TOAA. So because the bios state that the LT's only superior is TOAA, until further notice the LT is greater than Scathan by default because if Scathan was ALWAYS backed up by TOAA then Scathan would be second only to TOAA and thus he would be recorded that way in the bios.


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Scathan was shown to be superior in one instance. Using that logic, you could make a case for:

1) TOAA
2) TOAA-powered Scathan
3) LT

Unfortunately, the caveat is that TOAA-powered Scathan means that the Scathan bit is superfluous. Anything empowered by TOAA to a greater extent than LT is going to be > LT, like G and his heralds. The herald that G gives the most PC to is the most powerful, regardless of pre-herald power level.

Due to the fact that we have only seen Scathan once, using that as a case for Scathan > LT is nonsensical, because Scathan is only > LT with TOAA's backing, and anything with TOAA's backing is simply a feat for TOAA itself.

Basically, if I only ever ran a single 100m race at the Olympics, and I pumped myself full of drugs before the race, and broke the WR as a result, it would still be void, as 1) my normal levels were not established and 2) the victory was down to an external boost, which means other runners could replicate that with the same boost. Scathan has no other appearances, so unless a case can be made that Scathan > LT by himself, all we have is TOAA-powered Scathan > LT, which doesn't mean anything at all with respect to Scathan's power.

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Bump.

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Its whoever TOAA designates to in this case. Normally that is LT. But in that particular arc it was Scathan. So, if TOAA gives LT authority to destroy Scathan.. it is LT, if he gives Scathan orders it is vice versa. If TOAA wanted them to destroy eachother, he could, lol. Obviously, I see no reason why Scathan would be acting under TOAA in this case, so I'm going with LT. For the win.


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LT ftw.


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Scathan used a Celestial muzzle on Protege. LT did the rest

Seems = to me

Maybe get a more definitive answer if Scathan returns in the new GOTG

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this should end in a stalemate


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How u been

Good to see ya

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Originally posted by Ouallada
Scathan was shown to be superior in one instance. Using that logic, you could make a case for:

1) TOAA
2) TOAA-powered Scathan
3) LT

Unfortunately, the caveat is that TOAA-powered Scathan means that the Scathan bit is superfluous. Anything empowered by TOAA to a greater extent than LT is going to be > LT, like G and his heralds. The herald that G gives the most PC to is the most powerful, regardless of pre-herald power level.

Due to the fact that we have only seen Scathan once, using that as a case for Scathan > LT is nonsensical, because Scathan is only > LT with TOAA's backing, and anything with TOAA's backing is simply a feat for TOAA itself.

Basically, if I only ever ran a single 100m race at the Olympics, and I pumped myself full of drugs before the race, and broke the WR as a result, it would still be void, as 1) my normal levels were not established and 2) the victory was down to an external boost, which means other runners could replicate that with the same boost. Scathan has no other appearances, so unless a case can be made that Scathan > LT by himself, all we have is TOAA-powered Scathan > LT, which doesn't mean anything at all with respect to Scathan's power.

That WOULD be true, but only if it were fact that Scathan was powered by LT. That's MM and other's OPINION but until something concrete is said the feat is a valid display of Scathan's power.


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The question would be, was the muzzle simply a weakness to protege? Would it work on the LT? just because Protege had the Lt's powers, doesn't mean he didn't have also his OWN weaknesses to begin with. He never lost his humanity or what ever the hell he was.


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Would it work on the LT?
Scathan only made one muzzle for Protege. You'd clearly need three muzzles for LT.

In short, Scathan fails here. smile


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