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Originally posted by Strangelove
Umm, it's quite possible that he didn't know he had a power until late in life.


I thought that... maybe he didnt know by time he married her, but he certainly must have known when the Company was formed...

I think maybe that's why they had differences... maybe the reason Angela and Kaito got "intimate"


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It's suggested that they all have powers. Mr. Linderman had one. Bob has one. Matt's dad has one. Charles Deveaux seemed like he had one.

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Im sure he does


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Kaito didn't seem to have a power.If he did he was overcome relatively easily.


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Kaito didn't seem to have a power.If he did he was overcome relatively easily.
Well, not all powers are used for self defence, i mean he was old like linderman, not much he can do without his katana..

for all we know, he could have had the power to turn stuff green! haha.. i think it would be really cool if it was Arthur that killed kaito.. and hes still alive o_o


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Kaito didn't seem to have a power.If he did he was overcome relatively easily.


Yeah, think how many people could have been overcome in the same manner. Linderman, Matt, Bob, the Haitian. So, it's no surprised he could be killed that way.

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Bob would have turned him into stone or something hah! or a gold statue


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Originally posted by Mairuzu
Bob would have turned him into stone or something hah! or a gold statue


We don't know if his power will work on organic material or anything other than metal.

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Can't see why not.. but you are right.. would be awesome tho haha


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I like his glasses. Look a bit like Horn Rimmed Glasses.


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His name is Arthur if I knew this I forgot.
My theory is that Arthur isn't really dead and that he the main villian of the season because Angela looked shocked and what would shock her more then the return of her supposedly dead husband. Charles didn't just seem to he did.
The power of healing.

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Originally posted by Kuchiki Rukia
His name is Arthur if I knew this I forgot.
My theory is that Arthur isn't really dead and that he the main villian of the season because Angela looked shocked and what would shock her more then the return of her supposedly dead husband. Charles didn't just seem to he did.
The power of healing.
lol thats what i just said


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I actually think I've thought up a pretty good theory on this guy and am positive that you are all going to be awed by my level of super genius. Well anyways, I'm thinking that Arthur is the killer, and not only that, but he possesses powers of possession (lol, sounds funny the way that came out), and that's how he would be killing everyone.

Now think back to the photograph of the twelve Company Leaders, and notice how only the right side of his face is visible to us viewers. What possible reason is there for this? Why exactly did the Heroes Production team go out of their way to have the actor be facing that direction as the photograph was taken? Could it possibly be to hide an extremely hideous burn, somewhat similar to that which Nathan keeps on seeing on the left side of his face (same side that can't be seen of Arthur in the photo), so as not to spoil a major storyline? Am I getting onto something here?

Now think back to when both Kaito and Angela receive their death marks. Who was around both times? That's right, Nathan was! We see him knock into Ando just before Ando delivers Kaito his paper, where the Death Mark is found, and he only just enters the room in which Angela is, whereupon she leaves and stumbles onto a death mark of her own? Coincidence? Or is dear old Arthur using his son to in part do his dirty work? It would certainly fully explain this burn that Nathan keeps on seeing on his face as well (that it would seem likely that if Arthur can possess people, a part of him can be seen on who he possesses: his burn).

Now let's look back to Kaito's death. I'm guessing that Arthur yet again used his son Nathan to do his dirty work. Now you may ask why he decided to use Nathan to kill Kaito rather than directly possess Kaito and kill him himself. Well firstly, consider the implications that Kaito and Angela had at some time in the past had an affair, and that Arthur had known. Could he, in fact, have wanted Kaito to know that he was the killer (which would be apparent if the burn does indeed appear on whoever he's possessing)? Might he have actually wanted to kill him with his bare hands rather than with his mind to really enjoy the kill? Plus, he would have known that Kaito's power would have left him pretty much defenceless in his position (as they clearly did), and that with Nathan's ability, he would have been able to pull it off (as he could have just pushed him off and flew away at Mach speed). The fact that the scene just before shows Nathan looking in the mirror and seeing the burn on his face would certainly support this, and when Kaito claims that out of all of them, the mystery man was someone he would have never expected, well, that could simply be because Arthur was supposedly dead.

Now think back to when Angela appears to have been attacked by the killer. You might ask how exactly she was able to defend herself against such a mental attack, if Arthur can indeed possess people. Well, consider that not only do we not know what her power is (thus, her power could certainly be one that could act as a valid mental defence), we've also already seen her resist a mental based power in the show (Matt's telepathy). Though, she could simply have extraordinary strength of mind, and while struggling to resist Arthur's powers, she wasn't able to properly control her own power, which lead to the lights blanking out (scenario I think is more likely). Either way however, she appears to be able to defend against the power, which would explain how she was able o resist his powers if he can indeed possess people.

It's also quite funny that Nathan was around the very time Bob's death mark first surfaces. Another coincidence?

So yes, I'm thinking that not only is Arthur the killer, but he's using his powers of possession (which is in some way linked with his burn) to either control people (namely Nathan. lolz, alliteration, how smart a I?), or possess and kill them himself. Now bow down before me my below-genius-level-of-intellect bitches!

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I also agree with whoever thinks that the 8th Isaac painting depicts Arthur rather than Noah. Both wear HRGs, and the guy in the painting resembles what we've seen of Arthur more than Noah imho.

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Your first post was hella long but you made some more-than-interesting points. Nathan is always around when someone gets their threat. I never paid any attention to that. And I was wondering why he always sees a burn mark on his face when someone is about to die. Good observations.


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Originally posted by nmensfinest
I actually think I've thought up a pretty good theory on this guy and am positive that you are all going to be awed by my level of super genius. Well anyways, I'm thinking that Arthur is the killer, and not only that, but he possesses powers of possession (lol, sounds funny the way that came out), and that's how he would be killing everyone.

Now think back to the photograph of the twelve Company Leaders, and notice how only the right side of his face is visible to us viewers. What possible reason is there for this? Why exactly did the Heroes Production team go out of their way to have the actor be facing that direction as the photograph was taken? Could it possibly be to hide an extremely hideous burn, somewhat similar to that which Nathan keeps on seeing on the left side of his face (same side that can't be seen of Arthur in the photo), so as not to spoil a major storyline? Am I getting onto something here?

Now think back to when both Kaito and Angela receive their death marks. Who was around both times? That's right, Nathan was! We see him knock into Ando just before Ando delivers Kaito his paper, where the Death Mark is found, and he only just enters the room in which Angela is, whereupon she leaves and stumbles onto a death mark of her own? Coincidence? Or is dear old Arthur using his son to in part do his dirty work? It would certainly fully explain this burn that Nathan keeps on seeing on his face as well (that it would seem likely that if Arthur can possess people, a part of him can be seen on who he possesses: his burn).

Now let's look back to Kaito's death. I'm guessing that Arthur yet again used his son Nathan to do his dirty work. Now you may ask why he decided to use Nathan to kill Kaito rather than directly possess Kaito and kill him himself. Well firstly, consider the implications that Kaito and Angela had at some time in the past had an affair, and that Arthur had known. Could he, in fact, have wanted Kaito to know that he was the killer (which would be apparent if the burn does indeed appear on whoever he's possessing)? Might he have actually wanted to kill him with his bare hands rather than with his mind to really enjoy the kill? Plus, he would have known that Kaito's power would have left him pretty much defenceless in his position (as they clearly did), and that with Nathan's ability, he would have been able to pull it off (as he could have just pushed him off and flew away at Mach speed). The fact that the scene just before shows Nathan looking in the mirror and seeing the burn on his face would certainly support this, and when Kaito claims that out of all of them, the mystery man was someone he would have never expected, well, that could simply be because Arthur was supposedly dead.

Now think back to when Angela appears to have been attacked by the killer. You might ask how exactly she was able to defend herself against such a mental attack, if Arthur can indeed possess people. Well, consider that not only do we not know what her power is (thus, her power could certainly be one that could act as a valid mental defence), we've also already seen her resist a mental based power in the show (Matt's telepathy). Though, she could simply have extraordinary strength of mind, and while struggling to resist Arthur's powers, she wasn't able to properly control her own power, which lead to the lights blanking out (scenario I think is more likely). Either way however, she appears to be able to defend against the power, which would explain how she was able o resist his powers if he can indeed possess people.

It's also quite funny that Nathan was around the very time Bob's death mark first surfaces. Another coincidence?

So yes, I'm thinking that not only is Arthur the killer, but he's using his powers of possession (which is in some way linked with his burn) to either control people (namely Nathan. lolz, alliteration, how smart a I?), or possess and kill them himself. Now bow down before me my below-genius-level-of-intellect bitches!
Even thought this was long as hell, i read it anyways and you make a strong point, before i even read the part where you talked about the death of kaito, i had a feeling to where you were going with it, that the possession power would have taken nathan over and kaito knew it was nathan and knowing that Nathan wouldnt do such a thing.... that it was Arthur (if hes alive) seems like an awesome theory, should post it in the theory thread


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Even thought this was long as hell,...


haven't read it... way too long stick out tongue
maybe later big grin


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Its a good read


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I always imagined West would be more susceptible to control than Nathan, nor do I think Mr.Petrelli would have had a scar, but yet again, I won't rule it out. One of the redeeming factors of Heroes, apart from the cliff hangers (when they work) and the pace is the way the writers can hold open plot lines to quite a few possibilities.

I mention West because yet again I can let loose my dislike for the stereotype he inhibit's. The fact that a man with HRG abducted him and I felt the phsyique they shared was incredibly similar are moot compared to that.


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Its a good read

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Originally posted by nmensfinest
I actually think I've thought up a pretty good theory on this guy and am positive that you are all going to be awed by my level of super genius. Well anyways...

sorry big grin I stop there


and then read that..

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Originally posted by nmensfinest
....So yes, I'm thinking that not only is Arthur the killer, but he's using his powers of possession (which is in some way linked with his burn) to either control people (namely Nathan. lolz, alliteration, how smart a I?), or possess and kill them himself. Now bow down before me my below-genius-level-of-intellect bitches!



maybe later.... big grin


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