He can destroy planets using Ki blasts. No one in Dragonball has ever physically destroyed a planet. The closest thing ever shown was Cell destroying some asteroids.
Goku needs a Ki signal to lock on to. He's said it himself that IT is to a person not to place. In the after-life he also told Dende that New Namek was in a different Solar System and too far away for him to teleport to.
The creator stated he could SMASH a planet (he was asked out of all the characters he's made, who'd win in a fight and responded probably Goku, he could smash a planet).
He teleported from Earth to New Namek, but when in the After-Life he told Dende that it was too far away from their current location. This means it has a range limit.
Goku does need a Ki signal. He said to himself, that it’s to a person not a place. I’ll do something and you don’t seem to be doing, and post some actual evidence.
If he did say that, he most likely meant with a Ki blast. On-Panel no one has destroyed a planet through pure physical force, and until they do so it’s not cannon. I also doubt Akira actually said Goku would beat the other DBZ characters when Mystic Gohan is the strongest non-fused character. He's also created some other manga characters outside of DB that would wreck Goku.
Very simple. The one who just claimed Goku was faster than SS.
Not me.
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The after life is an undefinable quantity, a poor way to judge distance. For all we know moving from one dimension to the next dampens his power.
Goku does need a Ki signal. He said to himself, that it’s to a person not a place. I’ll do something and you don’t seem to be doing, and post some actual evidence.
Again, this only applies if we ignore the Cell fight. Seeing as how you have access to the scans why not post it and show everyone how Goku uses Shinkan Idou while charging a turtle wave?
If he did say that, he most likely meant with a Ki blast.
Proof? When I hear smash, I don't think ki bomb.
when Mystic Gohan is the strongest non-fused character
Proof? There's a ten year gap where all Goku did was train in prepartation for the return of Buu while Gohan got a life. Who's to say Goku didn't do what he always does and surpass the strongest character in that gap?
He's also created some other manga characters outside of DB that would wreck Goku.
Not in his opinion, which should be valued more then Pokemon's
Go ahead and find a place where you can make a poll on whoś faster...SS or Goku.
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It still proves his telportation has it's limits. The Supreme Kai had no problem teleporting to New Namek because his technique was superior.
You mean where Goku charged up his Kamehameha and had gave everboy enough time to freak out before he appeared before Cell? Sure I'll post those in a minute.
Till then take a look at Goku failing to teleport everyone in the vicinity to the after-life because he didn't have enough time to lock on to their Ki.
Why don't you show me Goku actually destroying a planet with physical force? Is it because he's never done anything even close to that? Unless it's presented On-Panel or at least mentioned On-Panel it's not cannon.
There's no proof that Goku surpassed Gohan. Non at all. The Mystic power-up was a permanent one. Goku did nothing to even suggest that he's on par with Mystic Gohan. If Akira was talking about every character he's ever created then even Vegito would count.
So accoring to Akira. Goku> Goku + Vegeta?
Goku did absolutely nothing to suggest that he became stronger than Mystic Gohan. Do you have some real-proof that Goku becoming stronger than Gohan was depicted on-panel? If not don’t tell me Goku became stronger than Gohan.
He's also created some other manga characters outside of DB that would wreck Goku.
Not in his opinion, which should be valued more then Pokemon's [/B][/QUOTE]
How about posting some scans of this interview, so I know that you’re not making shit up. And who the hell cares about Pokemon? Why’d you even bother mentioning such a shitty series?
Nowhere was it said that he can teleport without locking on to someone’s Ki. It just means he can lock on to someone’s Ki without having to have place a finger on his forehead. But this way it takes him longer, as seen in the scans, several characters had time to talk after Goku had prepared the Kamehameha.
You mean where Goku charged up his Kamehameha and had gave everboy enough time to freak out before he appeared before Cell? Sure I'll post those in a minute.
Till then take a look at Goku failing to teleport everyone in the vicinity to the after-life because he didn't have enough time to lock on to their Ki.
Like I said he doesn't need a source, it helps him locate where he's going. If he grabbed everyone and teleported they'd likely have wound up in space, dead. Kai Kai (technique you're in love with) is the same way.
Why don't you show me Goku actually destroying a planet with physical force
I gave you the words from the creator. Same thing.
There's no proof that Goku surpassed Gohan.
Logical fallacy. There's none that he didn't, except for the fact that we know everytime you give Goku time to train he passes up everyone.
So accoring to Akira. Goku> Goku + Vegeta?
What's laughable about that? Goku had 10 years of training. His power spikes more rapidly the more powerful he gets. He always breaks the previous established limits.
Shoot I'd wager that if Vegeta trained with the same intensity that he normally does he's likely more powerful then Gohan at the end of the 10 year gap.
Goku did absolutely nothing to suggest that he became stronger than Mystic Gohan.
Considering the post 10 year period only lasted 1 issue and he didn't come into blows with anyone notable (except Ubuu) there's not enough evidence to make either case. Unless you want to count GT, which helps my case.
How about posting some scans of this interview, so I know that you’re not making shit up.
It was in Wizard Magazine when he was hyping up that new RPG for the 360.
And who the hell cares about Pokemon? Why’d you even bother mentioning such a shitty series?
It means for the sake of the fight he could teleport wherever the hell he wants in an instant. And Goku was putting all his power into the wave, of course it'd take a while.
2. He does need a Source. I've posted scan that states he teleports to a person not to a place. You've posted no proof at all.
3. It's not the same thing. Until he destroys a planet with physical force on-panel it's non-cannon.
4. It doesn't matter how much more powerful Goku became because Vegito is Goku + Vegeta. So he'll always be more powerful than just Goku. Goku doesn't always get stronger than everybody else after training. He wasn't stronger than Vegeta after King Kai's training and he wasn't stronger than Perfect Cell or Gohan after training for the Cell games.
4. Until Goku actually proves he's stronger than Gohan. Gohan> Goku.
That's what was depicted on-panel.
Goku told Vegeta that the two of them didn't stand a chance against Super Buu. The same Super Buu that was getting his ass kicked by Gohan.
5. I'll have to get my hands on it, though it sounds like AT is talking out of his ass or it's possible he was misquoted. Not that it really matters. The series is over, the manga is the cannon source material.
6. And what does my user name have to do with what we're discussing?
It took him a while to teleport after he had powered up his Kamehameha.
Nowhere is it stated that he doesn’t need to lock on to a Ki signal. You’re speculating, when I've already posted a scan of Goku clearly telling everybody that he teleports to a person not to place and he does so by feeling someone's Ki.
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