1. There’s no stated distance but apparently Goku thinks he could get there using a spaceship, and once again the Supreme Kai would have no problem teleporting there.
2. Where is it ever stated that that he doesn’t need to lock on to someone’s Ki? Nowhere is it stated that locking on to someone’s Ki only helps him teleport.
3. No one in the Dragonball manga mentioned destroying a planet with pure physical force.
Vegeta did say he was going to destroy the Earth but at that point he was going crazy. He even referred to himself as the most powerful person in the Universe and said there was no one stronger than him, despite the existence of a character like Freeza. I don’t take what Vegeta said at that time so seriously. If he could destroy the planet back then, then yes Vegeta’s Ki blast back then is still more powerful than Goku’s punches. Goku’s punches have never destroyed a planet or even a mountain for that mater.
4. Yes. So there is no way Goku is stronger than the fusion of himself and Vegeta.
Goku wasn’t stronger than Vegeta after Kai’s training. He was losing the battle until he used KK and was getting the shit beaten out him after Vegeta transformed.
5. GT is non-cannon. It might have been 10 years ago but nowhere was it said that Goku had become stronger than Gohan. It wasn’t even hinted at. You’re speculating as to whether or not Goku became more powerful than Gohan. I’m simply going by what was last shown in the manga, which was Gohan> SSJ3 Gotenks> Super Buu> Goku.
6. K. I get it now. However some other characters he’s created have greater feats than Goku. Unless something is depicted On-panel it’s not cannon.
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Last edited by Rorschach on May 15th, 2007 at 02:12 PM
1.) You're taking a Goku comment that's not based on a fight seriously?
2.) Bleh whatever. He still doesn't need to focus.
3.) Who cares (besides AT who says he can)? You think Saiyan Saga Vegeta hits harder then Goku. Laughable.
4.) He was using KK and what happened to Vegeta? What would have happened to Vegeta if Goku could have transformed while controlling himself? Goku > Vegeta during Saiyan Saga. Saying otherwise is a lie. Hell Goku took Vegeta's best shot (which was stated to destroy the Earth) and not only matched, but bested it.
5.) Logical fallacy. Nowhere is it said that Gohan's the strongest person on the planet 10YL either. And what you're going by is dated power (manga wise as well), Goku had 10 years to train. It's laughable to think that he didn't increase, more or less match his son. GT may be non canon, but it least it gives us a chance to gauge what happens when one person (who's stated to have unlimited power potential, unlike Gohan) continues to spend their life training while the other slows down and becomes a yuppie.
Oh and thanks for bringing up Gohan surpassing Goku in the Cell games. What happened in the gap between the arcs again?
Calling names because of your frustration at being a pathetic banboy and proven wrong on nearly every occasion?
There truly is no hope for you.
SS/Ion/Sentry>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Goku in speed and everything else.
Now that we all know Mr. Stacks is an idiot...let us continue with our regularly scheduled debate.
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Yes...that name does fit you better. We were in danger of running out of forum idiots. Luckily you came along to entertain us all.
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Humans are afraid of the dark.
And yet… At the same time, we’re fascinated and bewitched by it.
Maybe that’s why humans drink the darkness that is coffee.
Still delusional I see? Reality still passing you by?
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Humans are afraid of the dark.
And yet… At the same time, we’re fascinated and bewitched by it.
Maybe that’s why humans drink the darkness that is coffee.
Fun, but it's time to let people get back to their topic.
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Humans are afraid of the dark.
And yet… At the same time, we’re fascinated and bewitched by it.
Maybe that’s why humans drink the darkness that is coffee.
Fun, but it's time to let people get back to their topic.
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Humans are afraid of the dark.
And yet… At the same time, we’re fascinated and bewitched by it.
Maybe that’s why humans drink the darkness that is coffee.