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Galan007
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PC Kryptinians are not Skyfather level.
Read "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow."


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Huh?

Super-emo IS a "real PC Kryptonian."


I meant the ones from actual stories written before COIE


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Originally posted by Endless Mike
I meant the ones from actual stories written before COIE
I figured you meant something along those lines -- It was just worded oddly, is all. happy


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Does Yat have a respect thread yet? Daxamite + ultimate GL = awesome.

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Does Yat have a respect thread yet? Daxamite + ultimate GL = awesome.
I'm sure he'll get one soon enough -- But devoting an entire respect thread to the 3-4 feats Yat currently has, would be meh.


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Originally posted by Priest
PC Kryptinians are not Skyfather level.


Yes they are. They're high skyfather if not higher.

They destroy solar systems effortlessly with sneezes.

they tow several solar systems worth of planets while
children.

They can travel to heaven by speed alone.

They can destroy the universe with speed alone.

They can extinguish stars with breath.

They can move planets with their breath.

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Originally posted by Sirius77
Yes they are. They're high skyfather if not higher.

They destroy solar systems effortlessly with sneezes.

they tow several solar systems worth of planets while
children.

They can travel to heaven by speed alone.

They can destroy the universe with speed alone.

They can extinguish stars with breath.

They can move planets with their breath.


They get beat down by Gorillas.


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And darseid fell down stairs and thanos got arrested
by the nypd. Low showings.

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Originally posted by Sirius77
Yes they are. They're high skyfather if not higher.

They destroy solar systems effortlessly with sneezes.

they tow several solar systems worth of planets while
children.

They can travel to heaven by speed alone.

They can destroy the universe with speed alone.

They can extinguish stars with breath.

They can move planets with their breath.
Superman - Once.

Superboy Prime - Once.

Superman - Never happened, but might have.

Never happened.

The last two I'm sure happened only once, and it doesn't mean they'd actually be put at Skyfather level...
That's like the equivilent of blowing out fire, and moving things, but on a mass level...


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Originally posted by Sirius77
And darseid fell down stairs and thanos got arrested
by the nypd. Low showings.


Darkseid falling down stairs isn't a low showing - it's a point of the plot.

And Thanos never got arrested by the NYPD - that was in an electric company comic.

Superman getting beat down by Gorillas, though? Totally canon.


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I think that we can all agree that someone that blows
out stars with his breath and moves planets getting
such a low showing is pis. Thats really all that I have
to say.

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thanos got arrested by the nypd.
In the same comic that has Easy Reader says:
"This comic is easy to read!"


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Originally posted by Sirius77
I think that we can all agree that someone that blows
out stars with his breath and moves planets getting
such a low showing is pis. Thats really all that I have
to say.


No, I think we can all agree that precrisis continuity was incredibly inconsistent. However, to say that they were skyfathers based on their three highest showings is akin to saying that they are low-street level based on their three lowest.


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Originally posted by Sirius77
Yes they are. They're high skyfather if not higher.

They destroy solar systems effortlessly with sneezes.

they tow several solar systems worth of planets while
children.

They can travel to heaven by speed alone.

They can destroy the universe with speed alone.

They can extinguish stars with breath.

They can move planets with their breath.

That's like saying that all humans...

Can see bullets in slow motion.

Can throw a shield at escape velocity.

Can take on guys like Namor and the Hulk.

...just because Captain America can do it. Silver Age Supes was pretty much the pinnacle of Kryptonian power just as Captain America is the pinnacle of humanity. Unless I'm mistaken, PC Supes proved to be superior to most(if not all) other PC Kryptonians he encountered, so I don't know how you see them as being as powerful as he.


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That's like saying that all humans...

Can see bullets in slow motion.

Can throw a shield at escape velocity.

Can take on guys like Namor and the Hulk.

...just because Captain America can do it. Silver Age Supes was pretty much the pinnacle of Kryptonian power just as Captain America is the pinnacle of humanity. Unless I'm mistaken, PC Supes proved to be superior to most(if not all) other PC Kryptonians he encountered, so I don't know how you see them as being as powerful as he.


Let it be known... Pre-Crisis Superman>>>all other cheap imitating wannabe bitches. thumb up


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Let it be known... Pre-Crisis Superman>>>all other cheap imitating wannabe bitches. thumb up
Except Gladiator... shifty


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As far as PC Superman goes -- Some of his high end feats were at least Skyfather-level, imo.

But as Soljer brought up,
The PC days were extremely inconsistent -- Especially where Superman was concerned.

I mean he would go from pretty much inventing powers whenever he needed them -- To getting smacked around by a fraggin' monkey.


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Originally posted by Galan007
As far as PC Superman goes -- Some of his high end feats were at least Skyfather-level, imo.

But as Soljer brought up,
The PC days were extremely inconsistent -- Especially where Superman was concerned.

I mean he would go from pretty much inventing powers whenever he needed them, to getting smacked around by a fraggin' monkey.


I don't disagree that some of his higher feats were clearly skyfather (definitely not HIGH skyfather, but skyfather nonetheless).

I was just pointing out that it's equally logical and acceptable to say that Pre Crisis Superman is Skyfather for sneezing away solar systems as it is to say that he's weaker than Batman for getting beat on by gorillas.


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What comics exactly did they appear in PC ones that is.


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What comics exactly did they appear in PC ones that is.
Anything before 1986 is considered "Pre-Crisis".


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