Wei Phoenix
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by jedi90
hulk meets the definition "impossible to damage, wound." no one is saying he can't be beat.
He's been ko'd before and recently so I don't see how he meets the definition. Wolverine can even cut him. He bleeds, you don't bleed when you're invulnerable. Find one source that states one of his powers is invulnerability.
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Jun 11th, 2009 07:56 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by jalek moye
the hulks fight isnt canon so it doesnt matter
And sentry didn't use speed on hulk, and well thor is slow to be honest
thor is not slow, last i checked he can move near light speed.
Jun 11th, 2009 07:56 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by jedi90
thor is not slow, last i checked he can move near light speed.
he can't fight at the speed, he can use his hammer for light speed flight. But combat wise he's not much faster then hulk.
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Jun 11th, 2009 07:59 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
He's been ko'd before and recently so I don't see how he meets the definition. Wolverine can even cut him. He bleeds, you don't bleed when you're invulnerable. Find one source that states one of his powers is invulnerability.
wolverine claws are adamantium, they can cut through anything. hulk heals instantly from the cuts so logan's fight was moot.
Jun 11th, 2009 08:04 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
He's been ko'd before and recently so I don't see how he meets the definition. Wolverine can even cut him. He bleeds, you don't bleed when you're invulnerable. Find one source that states one of his powers is invulnerability.
he meets the definition because hulk does not sustain damage. he..heals...instantly..... you are getting invulnerable and invincible confused.
Jun 11th, 2009 08:09 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by jalek moye
he can't fight at the speed, he can use his hammer for light speed flight. But combat wise he's not much faster then hulk.
Speaking of speed, how fast is superman?
if Thor moves NEAR the speed of light then how fast is Superman and "faster than a speeding bullet) is not an acceptable answer !!
Jun 11th, 2009 08:09 PM
Wei Phoenix
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by jedi90
wolverine claws are adamantium, they can cut through anything. hulk heals instantly from the cuts so logan's fight was moot.
They can't cut through Cain nor his armor. He healed later, and he was ko'd so now what about his invulnerability?
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Jun 11th, 2009 08:09 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by SMIFF-N-WESSON
Speaking of speed, how fast is superman?
if Thor moves NEAR the speed of light then how fast is Superman and "faster than a speeding bullet) is not an acceptable answer !!
I know of one scan where he claims to go just a bit shy of the speed of light and his speed is actually shown. I will look for it.
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Jun 11th, 2009 08:10 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by jedi90
he meets the definition because hulk does not sustain damage. he..heals...instantly..... you are getting invulnerable and invincible confused.
Funny, last I checked Hulk is Highly resistant to damage. kinda makes you invulnerable doesn't it?
Jun 11th, 2009 08:11 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by jalek moye
he can't fight at the speed, he can use his hammer for light speed flight. But combat wise he's not much faster then hulk.
none of the characters fight at light speed. a majority of the time supes is not using superspeed.
Jun 11th, 2009 08:11 PM
Wei Phoenix
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Jun 11th, 2009 08:13 PM
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So according to your source vs Jedi90's Thor comment, it is determined that they are the same speed ...yes?
Jun 11th, 2009 08:15 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by SMIFF-N-WESSON
Speaking of speed, how fast is superman?
if Thor moves NEAR the speed of light then how fast is Superman and "faster than a speeding bullet) is not an acceptable answer !!
supes is around light speed.
thor has reaction speed of around that level, but movement and fight speed are much lower then supermans
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Jun 11th, 2009 08:17 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
They can't cut through Cain nor his armor. He healed later, and he was ko'd so now what about his invulnerability?
they have been shown to cut his armor to remove his helmet. i'll try to find the scan. you can be invulnerable and ko'd.
Jun 11th, 2009 08:18 PM
Wei Phoenix
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by SMIFF-N-WESSON
So according to your source vs Jedi90's Thor comment, it is determined that they are the same speed ...yes?
No. Thor travels at light speed due to his hammer, Superman can move and fight at that level, if he couldn't then he would have "brake" extremely early when he wanted to stop flying.
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Jun 11th, 2009 08:18 PM
Wei Phoenix
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by jedi90
they have been shown to cut his armor to remove his helmet. i'll try to find the scan. you can be invulnerable and ko'd.
They have never cut his armor, and he has removed his helmet with strength, not the blade itself. Cain is invulnerable and he can be telepathically ko'd but not physically. You can't be physically ko'd and invulnerable. That's like saying Namor can drown in the Pacific Ocean.
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Jun 11th, 2009 08:20 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by jalek moye
supes is around light speed.
thor has reaction speed of around that level, but movement and fight speed are much lower then supermans
Never been a big Thor fan but even if Supermans faster, how would Super man beat him?
To whip Thor, youll need more than strength and last I checked Super man is weak against Lighting...the same lightning from Thors hammer save the fact that it's magic but it is what it is.
Jun 11th, 2009 08:22 PM
Wei Phoenix
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by SMIFF-N-WESSON
Never been a big Thor fan but even if Supermans faster, how would Super man beat him?
To whip Thor, youll need more than strength and last I checked Super man is weak against Lighting...the same lightning from Thors hammer save the fact that it's magic but it is what it is.
No one said he was beating him although Cain beat him with strength alone.
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Jun 11th, 2009 08:23 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
They have never cut his armor, and he has removed his helmet with strength, not the blade itself. Cain is invulnerable and he can be telepathically ko'd but not physically. You can't be physically ko'd and invulnerable. That's like saying Namor can drown in the Pacific Ocean.
From what I read Cains armor cant be cut by Wolverine but im sure its happened in an issue at least once. But that's writers discretion.
Jun 11th, 2009 08:23 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
They have never cut his armor, and he has removed his helmet with strength, not the blade itself. Cain is invulnerable and he can be telepathically ko'd but not physically. You can't be physically ko'd and invulnerable. That's like saying Namor can drown in the Pacific Ocean.
wait a minute, you're saying supes is invulnerable but hulk isn't yet supes has been maimed, ko'd, and killed. hulk does not sustain damage and his durability is up there with supes. it also goes hand in hand with his rage.
Jun 11th, 2009 08:24 PM
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