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Allankles
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you know what, you're right. i just made all that stuff up.

http://goodcomics.comicbookresource...-copyright-faq/


Hope that was cleared? ^


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still waiting on you guys to show something from DC publisher's that says superman being superboy is now canon.

anyways, lets get back on topic.


Superman as the teen in the LOSH days exists in the continuity. It should be clear without stating the obvious (calling him superboy).

That's a legal matter seperated from the fictional setting, you're getting caught up in the title (which DC still owns the trademark for), when it's besides the point.


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ah, but it does. so far we have 3 reboots (man of steel, birthright, secret origins) for supes. DC writers can't seem to stick with one. superboy is not included in most comic origins cause of the legal issues with the seigel's. if supes is depicted using his superman persona as boy he is now referred to as superman or just clark, no superboy. if they treat secret origins as they did birthright you're going to see another reboot just in time for another lame superman movie.

from john bryne:
http://www.byrnerobotics.com/FAQ/li...ook+Projects#32

still waiting on you guys to show something from DC publisher's that says superman being superboy is now canon.

anyways, lets get back on topic.


it doesn't, actually.

he's getting a new origin this year (secret origin), which will be definitive. that origin will take precedence over all others.

john byrne's stuff has been retconned away, including the origin, a long time ago.

if you'd read the comics, you'd have seen just how much legion stuff has been brought back in, including clark's involvement. just because they can't outright call him superboy doesn't mean he wasn't at one point.

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first of all you're posting pictures of non-continuity "all star superman" who absorbed an insane amount of solar energy that increased his powers 10 fold.

supes took a sun dip to move "that planet" warworld. otherwise he wouldn't be able to do it.


there's no proof he couldn't have. he didn't even get the sundip so he could move the planet. he got it so he could attack warworld's interior.


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Originally posted by Allankles
Superman as the teen in the LOSH days exists in the continuity. It should be clear without stating the obvious (calling him superboy).

That's a legal matter seperated from the fictional setting, you're getting caught up in the title (which DC still owns the trademark for), when it's besides the point.


scans of pre crisis superman as superboy were posted to insinuate that all those pre crisis feats are now canon because of an off series that made reference to the legion. superman has been rebooted 3 times so far and DC writers seem to be sticking to john bryne's official DC approved reboot version where there is no superboy, young superman, or superclark.

if the seigel's own the superboy copyright (i.e. his stories) then DC cannot make superman be superboy.

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scans of pre crisis superman as superboy were posted to insinuate that all those pre crisis feats are now canon because of an off series that made reference to the legion. superman has been rebooted 3 times so far and DC writers seem to be sticking to john bryne's official DC approved reboot version where there is no superboy, young superman, or superclark.

if the seigel's own the superboy copyright (i.e. his stories) then DC cannot make superman be superboy.


no they aren't. they haven't stuck to byrne's superman since the mid 90s, at most.

he hasn't been rebooted three times.


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it doesn't, actually.

he's getting a new origin this year (secret origin), which will be definitive. that origin will take precedence over all others.

john byrne's stuff has been retconned away, including the origin, a long time ago.

if you'd read the comics, you'd have seen just how much legion stuff has been brought back in, including clark's involvement. just because they can't outright call him superboy doesn't mean he wasn't at one point.

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there's no proof he couldn't have. he didn't even get the sundip so he could move the planet. he got it so he could attack warworld's interior.


really? retconned by what? so far the only official retcon announced by DC was birthright which last i checked there was no superboy. DC retracted the birthright origin so that leaves bryne's. i can't wait for this latest reboot...........embarrasment

ok , show proof otherwise that he could have moved warworld.

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no they aren't. they haven't stuck to byrne's superman since the mid 90s, at most.

he hasn't been rebooted three times.


bryne erased superboy from superman's history like i've been saying this whole time. the third reboot i am talking about is the one you mentioned.

here is the link from bryne talking about him keeping superboy out of continuity ...........................again
http://www.byrnerobotics.com/FAQ/li...ook+Projects#32

i guess i got all this from all those superman comics ya'll claim i dont read.

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really? retconned by what? so far the only official retcon announced by DC was birthright which last i checked there was no superboy. DC retracted the birthright origin so that leaves bryne's. i can't wait for this latest reboot...........embarrasment

ok , show proof otherwise that he could have moved warworld.


they've been using geoff johns' version for a while now. kal-el came to earth in a rocket sent by his parents shortly before krypton exploded. as a child he met mon-el, the legion, AND lex luthor. it's all been explored in the last few years worth of action comics.

he's moved objects bigger than warworld, so that would count.

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bryne erased superboy from superman's history like i've been saying this whole time. the third reboot i am talking about is the one you mentioned.

here is the link from bryne talking about him keeping superboy out of continuity ...........................again
http://www.byrnerobotics.com/FAQ/li...ook+Projects#32

i guess i got all this from all those superman comics ya'll claim i dont read.


byrne did erase him, yes, but byrne has been overruled by geoff johns and several other writers since then, hence no matter what he says, what he did has been altered.

read modern superman comics, and you'd know.


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Superman can take Thor, Hulk, and Hyperion in a one on one match. He can't if all of them are attacking him at the same time, unless some gimmick is thrown in.

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they've been using geoff johns' version for a while now. kal-el came to earth in a rocket sent by his parents shortly before krypton exploded. as a child he met mon-el, the legion, AND lex luthor. it's all been explored in the last few years worth of action comics.

he's moved objects bigger than warworld, so that would count.



byrne did erase him, yes, but byrne has been overruled by geoff johns and several other writers since then, hence no matter what he says, what he did has been altered.

read modern superman comics, and you'd know.
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and secret origin manages to hammer all those points home too...


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bryne erased superboy from superman's history like i've been saying this whole time. the third reboot i am talking about is the one you mentioned.

here is the link from bryne talking about him keeping superboy out of continuity ...........................again
http://www.byrnerobotics.com/FAQ/li...ook+Projects#32

i guess i got all this from all those superman comics ya'll claim i dont read.


Byrne's origin is out the window for the most part. Even counting the Byrne arc's that stayed in continuity, it's now known Clark had powers as a child again.


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Both are debatable.


surfer takes supes most the time.


thor against supes would be a hell of a fight.

im saying 50/50

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glad you asked. there are actually quite a few for each side.

DC

lobo
martian manhunter
capt. marvel
capt atom
green lantern

marvel

hulk
red hulk
silver surfer
dr. strange
thor
sentry
gladiator


superman should be able to beat everyone on the list except possibly surfer

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Squirrel Girl can murder Superman


assuming she doesn't come on to him like most of the women he meets...


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