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Originally posted by jalek moye
hulk at base is barly over 100 tons. if superman braced himself he'd eat like it was nothing. As hulk got madder then of course he'd start to feel it.


Isn't that exactly how it was portrayed in the crossover?


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people acting like Hulk needs lot of anger to hurt Superman - This is complete false Hulk has increased strength very rapidly in the fast.

At base Superman is still stronger than Hulk true but it looks like there is myth going around Hulk needs to get extreme mad -.-

as for Superman vs Hulk - a one dimensional character can never beat someone like Superman.

Hulk won't last that long


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well he does need anger to increase to that level but for somone barly stronger then him of course he doesnt need anger.


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Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Isn't that exactly how it was portrayed in the crossover?


Yep, Hulk kept punching, and getting madder and madder, but Superman didn't budge. It was just a b.s. move to make Superman more hyped up than he already was. The way I see it, telling me that Superman won't feel his hits at first is like telling me that no matter how much force I put into it, if I punch someone who's older, stronger, and more in shape than I am, he won't feel it. It's an obvious lie.

Sure, the Hulk isn't stronger than Superman at base, but it won't take him getting too angry for him to be able to fight with even terms with Superman. Some people act as if Hulk doesn't have any impressive feats or fights. Strength wise, he's just as good as Superman.

Character wise, I'd say I prefer Hulk more. Superman always ends up being too overpowered, and things are always made too easy for him.


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Yep, Hulk kept punching, and getting madder and madder, but Superman didn't budge. It was just a b.s. move to make Superman more hyped up than he already was. The way I see it, telling me that Superman won't feel his hits at first is like telling me that no matter how much force I put into it, if I punch someone who's older, stronger, and more in shape than I am, he won't feel it. It's an obvious lie.

Sure, the Hulk isn't stronger than Superman at base, but it won't take him getting too angry for him to be able to fight with even terms with Superman. Some people act as if Hulk doesn't have any impressive feats or fights. Strength wise, he's just as good as Superman.

Character wise, I'd say I prefer Hulk more. Superman always ends up being too overpowered, and things are always made too easy for him.


Well Superman is nearly as invulnerable as Juggernaut is and he doesn't feel a punch from Hulk.

I also find it funny that you think Supes is written as too overpowered but not Hulk. Both have been written as overpowered and their strength and feats have lead to confusing contradictions like Hulk breaking Onslaught's armor.


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Originally posted by Soljer
*shrugs* Seemed like another single-digit-IQ Hulk supporter might feel inclined to come in, "Ya, wit Sliva as teh Hulk! LOLZORZ!"


There might also be a single-digit IQ poster coming in here to post about how great Superman is. The OP is a good example of Superman's fans' general lack of intelligence.
There are intelligent fans of course. Just like there are intelligent Hulk fans.
Me I don't like either Hulk or Superman so who cares.

I still say Gladiator can at least split with Superman.

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There might also be a single-digit IQ poster coming in here to post about how great Superman is. The OP is a good example of Superman's fans' general lack of intelligence.
There are intelligent fans of course. Just like there are intelligent Hulk fans.
Me I don't like either Hulk or Superman so who cares.

I still say Gladiator can at least split with Superman.


Gladiator is the shit. He'll beat Supes because he believes that he can beat his ass.


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There might also be a single-digit IQ poster coming in here to post about how great Superman is. The OP is a good example of Superman's fans' general lack of intelligence.
There are intelligent fans of course. Just like there are intelligent Hulk fans.


I didn't say the Hulk was the only one with moronic fanboys; every popular character is bound to have at least a few. However, Banner does seem to attract more than Spiderman, Batman, Superman, and Wolverine - though Wolverine can actually provide some competition.


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Well, this one guy on a Hulk forum actually believes Wolverine could beat Superman, so yeah, Wolverine fans can be moronic.


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Well Superman is nearly as invulnerable as Juggernaut is and he doesn't feel a punch from Hulk.

I also find it funny that you think Supes is written as too overpowered but not Hulk. Both have been written as overpowered and their strength and feats have lead to confusing contradictions like Hulk breaking Onslaught's armor.


There's no such thing as complete invulnerability.

Both have been overpowered many times throughout history. And the ironic thing is both never started out as powerful as they would gradually become as different artists and writers began working on the characters.


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There's no such thing as complete invulnerability.

actually there is in certain aspects Juggernuat is completly physically invulnerable.


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There's no such thing as complete invulnerability.


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Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Well Superman is nearly as invulnerable as Juggernaut is and he doesn't feel a punch from Hulk.


You're invulnerable or you're not.

There's no real inbetween with that term. You can't be a bit invulnerable, or mostly invulnerable. You are or you are not.

Hulk is my favourite character, but Markus seems to think he can beat anyone, even the pathetically overpowered people, and anyone who disagrees is a fool.

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You're invulnerable or you're not.

There's no real inbetween with that term. You can't be a bit invulnerable, or mostly invulnerable. You are or you are not.

Hulk is my favourite character, but Markus seems to think he can beat anyone, even the pathetically overpowered people, and anyone who disagrees is a fool.

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Yeah I should've used the word durable instead.


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There's no such thing as complete invulnerability.

Both have been overpowered many times throughout history. And the ironic thing is both never started out as powerful as they would gradually become as different artists and writers began working on the characters.


Actually Juggernaut was always written as an invulnerable menace. The only thing that he isn't 100% invulnerable to is magic. Energy, elements and physical attacks don't really affect him.


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There's no such thing as complete invulnerability.

when it comes to phsycial attacks there is


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No, there isn't. If there was, Superman wouldn't be able to be killed by someone of equal or greater strength, or be vulnerable to both magic & kryptonite. Don't be difficult.


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No, there isn't. If there was, Superman wouldn't be able to be killed by someone of equal or greater strength, or be vulnerable to both magic & kryptonite. Don't be difficult.
I didnt say superman was invulnerable i just said that some people are. because you said that there is none


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Juggernaut is completely invulnerable to most forms of damage.

Superman is not, but his durability is too much for Hulk.


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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You're invulnerable or you're not.

There's no real inbetween with that term. You can't be a bit invulnerable, or mostly invulnerable. You are or you are not.

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