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Juggernaut is completely invulnerable to most forms of damage.


Untrue.


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Untrue.


Are you going to prove that it is untrue?


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I doubt he needs to as it's pretty true, he's not invulnerable to most types of damage.


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I doubt he needs to as it's pretty true, he's not invulnerable to most types of damage.


but he is invulnerable to physical damage. he neevr gets hurt from purely physical means


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but he is invulnerable to physical damage. he neevr gets hurt from purely physical means


So you mean to say that if the Living Tribunal descended from the cosmos, took the Juggernaut between his thumb and forefinger and squeezed as hard as he could, Cain'd be fine?


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So you mean to say that if the Living Tribunal descended from the cosmos, took the Juggernaut between his thumb and forefinger and squeezed as hard as he could, Cain'd be fine?
Considering the fact that there are levels of infinity in Marvel, and LT's physical strength is simply a few(okay, a lot) level of infinity above Cain's, that does not prove Cain's durability to physical damage is not infinite.


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So you mean to say that if the Living Tribunal descended from the cosmos, took the Juggernaut between his thumb and forefinger and squeezed as hard as he could, Cain'd be fine?
so you believe that nothing is invulnerable since there is always forces out there that will be able to affect the Immortal ,invulnerable etc.


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Hulk will never logically be able to beat Superman.

Superman is almost always stronger than Hulk, he has some ways to go to work up from his base to reach Superman's strength level.

Superman is too fast for Hulk to be able to react to his attacks, and Superman would never be hit.

Superman is more durable. Period.

And Superman is more versatile.

Superman stomps Hulk.


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But it's absolutely correct.


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What are ya talking about? I agreed with him.

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So you mean to say that if the Living Tribunal descended from the cosmos, took the Juggernaut between his thumb and forefinger and squeezed as hard as he could, Cain'd be fine?


Doe LT have any strength feats? I don't know because I'm not in to all of the cosmic entities. I do know that he has impenetrable skin and a force field. Cain has survived being cast into Oblivion by Eternity so I think a little pressure will be fine. As I said he is immune to physical, energy, and elemental attacks 100%.


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What are ya talking about? I agreed with him.



Doe LT have any strength feats? I don't know because I'm not in to all of the cosmic entities. I do know that he has impenetrable skin and a force field. Cain has survived being cast into Oblivion by Eternity so I think a little pressure will be fine. As I said he is immune to physical, energy, and elemental attacks 100%.


The only problem with that is the LT is like the right hand of God. Just by touching it Cain will be powerless or dead.


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The only problem with that is the LT is like the right hand of God. Just by touching it Cain will be powerless or dead.


Well yeah but in that scenario as you said Cain would be powerless and being invulnerable doesn't mean you can't lose your powers. I was talking about Cain still with his powers being squeezed by LT who is not trying to take or seal his powers off.


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Didn't Onslaught reach into Juggy's chest and pull out his gem, one time?

If he was physically invulnerable, his body couldn't have been pierced like that.


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The Onslaught saga PISsed on Cain. First of all the gem was never inside of him and I think Cain like many others like Thor were weakned before the Onslaught Saga.


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or it was just a great big pile of crap.

which sucked, cos marvel could do with a decent saga that involves the x-men...


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that too.

Hell the fact that he "tricked" Hulk into destroying his "indestructible" armor was a big WTF moment for me.


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that too.

Hell the fact that he "tricked" Hulk into destroying his "indestructible" armor was a big WTF moment for me.


its just a mess in general... its alright in parts, but stuff like juggy, and the conclusion, are just... ugly, really...


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The Hulk doesn't have as far to go to reach Superman's strength as some has stated. The Hulk is no weakling, and at his base he's already very strong.


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The Hulk doesn't have as far to go to reach Superman's strength as some has stated. The Hulk is no weakling, and at his base he's already very strong.


but no where near that strong. most of hulks high end strength feats werent at his base. and superman can do all of them only eaiser


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The Hulk doesn't have as far to go to reach Superman's strength as some has stated. The Hulk is no weakling, and at his base he's already very strong.


Superman's ridiculous factor wins, Hulk doesn't have a chance against it. End of story.

As far as pure strength, Hulk has an unknown and possibly unlimited strength level, he needs time and anger to increase though. Superman is generally strong enough to do whatever feat is laid before him, in all it's silliness. I haven't kept up with Superman, so I'm unsure how powerful he currently is and I imagine it fluctuates depending on the series. But when the Hulk holds up mountains on his shoulders, Superman is written so he can toss them.


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