a real kubrick fan will at least apreciate all of his films and recognize the fact that they are all masterpieces for different reasons. even if they may not find them that entertaining.
The ironic thing is that it is Eyes Wide Shut that Kubrick strayed into the realms of the pretentious on. Kubrick's cxlinical touch that served him so well with Paths of Glory and FMJ doesn't work so well with an emotional story like Eyes Wide Shut.
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that is your opinion Ush and most people? out of my close acquaintances none of them recognise this as a great film. They look at the story of it and found it to be crap. Most people dont go beyond how a film is made they look to the story and if that aint good enough they will think the movie is crap. I found it to be really boring but then again I read the book before I saw the film and I never liked the book either.
I have no objection to people not liking the film but pretentious is an inappropriate lable. I made that definitive statement there to counter KJ's equally definitive one above.
However, the film is generally acknowledged as a masterpiece and I stand by the second half of that statement.
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Actually I found the whole story stupid, but I wouldnt call the film pretentious cause I guess the effects was astonishing when it was released way back then . So it set a standard for special effects so...
The special effects were shockingly good and there has been nothing as directly realistic since. They were even UPSET they had to add the stars in to please people!
It WAS a slow film, and boring would be a relevant criticism of it. I am not sure about stupid... I would say obscure.
But no, not pretentious. It doesn't qualify for that.
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Oh the books... well, certainly I have never seen anyone get away with books with so little happening in them. The third one really WAS dull- you will note that no-one will even try and make a film about that.
In fact, compare the film 2010 to 2001. Except for the continuity (like the sets) and the quality performance by two of the leads from the original, that was rubbish... now, 2001 COULD have been like that if it was just a straight adaption. I take that as a good indication of Kubrick's skill.
Who on EARTH thought the voiceover in 2010 was a good idea... (shakes head sorrowfully)
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