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If you will read earlier post, it is explained that he was slowly dying and fading away and why, and because of this, 2015 isn't altered because he altered the timeline where he doesn't live in the year 2015, therefore having no affect on it, no visible affect anyway. Im sure his family and other little things like that are affected by his death and his grandsons, if he has one since he died, doesn't have him around anymore to wax and buff his car and stuff like that.


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number 3 was on today, but we don't have the channel so i couldn't look at it, even thought its the worse one, but since they've been coming on lately for some reason and i looked at 1 and 2 again, i thought i might as way look at 3 again.

Anybody know why they are showing them all of a sudden all over tv, maybe just a random thing and thought they'd bring them back out again for a while.


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These are good arguments. If I remember correctly, in part 3, Doc was supposed to meet a school teacher at the train station when she arrived. When Marty came back, he stopped Doc from meeting Clara. So, even if Marty never went back to 1885, Doc still would've met Clara. I may be wrong on this, but I could swear thats how Doc was supposed to meet Clara originally. But if he did meet her at the train station as originally planned, she never would have gone off in the ravine.

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Thats why she wouldn't have crashed into the ravine. Wait a minute, after doc had saved Clara he found out that the ravine was named after her and was worried that he had gone and ruined the future. But he had already changed time, if he was gonna go see her at the train station then she wouldn't have died so either way he changed it so why get worried over this when she was gonna live anyway?


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Why is the Clayton ravine called this before, even though she does not fall in


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I think it is clever that in bttf1 Biff calls George Mcfly a "Irish Bug" and martys great-great granparents came to america from ireland alien


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Thats why she wouldn't have crashed into the ravine. Wait a minute, after doc had saved Clara he found out that the ravine was named after her and was worried that he had gone and ruined the future. But he had already changed time, if he was gonna go see her at the train station then she wouldn't have died so either way he changed it so why get worried over this when she was gonna live anyway?


yea that part never made sense to me.

Unless Doc and Clara met in 1885....then Doc gets shot first...tombstone says "beloved by Clara"

Then Clara goes and plunges down the ravine....out of lost love or whatever...hence, Clayton ravine.

It's all a bit screwed up.

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IN bttf2 you can see two people in the time machine when marty from bttf1 goes back to 1985. BUt you must look ver carefully or use the slow and pause button if you have it on dvd


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In back to the future3 at the end of the film Clayton Ravine changes to Eastwood ravine even though nobody except Doc and Clara seen Marty/Clint Eastwood fall off


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They obviously told people.

"What ever happened to your Clint Eastwood friend?"

"He tragically fell off the ravine with the train."


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Oh yea thanks


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Thats why she wouldn't have crashed into the ravine. Wait a minute, after doc had saved Clara he found out that the ravine was named after her and was worried that he had gone and ruined the future. But he had already changed time, if he was gonna go see her at the train station then she wouldn't have died so either way he changed it so why get worried over this when she was gonna live anyway?

Actually, being the heartless bastard I am, I was saying that Doc should've just got in the car at the end and let Clara die on the train. That would've set time right, the ravine would've been called Clayton Ravine again.


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Then again it might have ruined it since his grave had her name on meaning that she had meant to live.


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She lived only because Doc went back to 1885. If Doc hadn't been at that time, Clara would've died.


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There wasn't much he could have done to prevent going back and saving her by meeting her at the station any way. Past was re written as soon as he made that time machine.


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If Doc and Marty prevented any death then wouldent the tombstone have Docs name on it. He would have died through a natural course of time. I mean if he was about 50 or 60 something in bttf and the letter Marty got in 1955 was not given to him for 70 years then Doc could not have possibly lived that long


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There wasn't much he could have done to prevent going back and saving her by meeting her at the station any way. Past was re written as soon as he made that time machine.

Ah, so you're going by the fate thing. Well, if the past was already rewritten when Doc made the time machine....

1) Marty's dad wouldn't be such a wuss at the beginning of the movie.
2) Biff wouldn't be so tough at the beginning.
3) Marty's mom wouldn't be so heavy at the beginning.
4) Twin Pines Mall would already be called Lone Pine Mall.
5) They wouldn't have even remembered the ravine as Clayton Ravine.

There are many reasons, I just named a few I could think of. Time changes only at the time they change it.


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If Doc and Marty prevented any death then wouldent the tombstone have Docs name on it. He would have died through a natural course of time. I mean if he was about 50 or 60 something in bttf and the letter Marty got in 1955 was not given to him for 70 years then Doc could not have possibly lived that long

Yes, Doc would be dead still. His grave wouldn't necessarily be in the same place though.

Which brings up something that doesn't make sense in Part 3. When Marty and Doc both live at the end, the picture of the tombstone turns into a picture of the dirt. Why would they leave that gravespot empty? Why not bury someone else there?


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Time was rewritten, marty went into the past in the future, so the the future him changed the past, it was all set, if he had gone forward in time to the day he went back to 1955 then he would go back and find his dad changed.


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okay, that above message was written so poorly and confusing. No offense.

How does someone "go into the past in the future"?

And yall have hit so many good/bad points that I won't even try and comment on them all or any of them for that matter. Just confusing getting all of that information at once. I must need to watch 3 over again, b/c i'm really off on that one, most likely b/c i didn't like that one so much of it wasn't retained in my memory b/c i didn't find it interesting enough.


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