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Shakyamunison
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Originally posted by debbiejo
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Well, that makes it perfectly clear. laughing


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Originally posted by leonheartmm
however, it would be sad for you if there really was even one person in the world who was a psychic/mystic which cud truly not be explained by your perspective wudnt it. if there were more to it than met your eye or your perspective. just saying.


produce that one person

quite the contrary, I would not be sad. In fact, were I the one to find that person, it would essentially mean I could retire before I was 25.


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They repitition is a good brain washing tool! cool


[edit] Hey, where'd ya go, Shaky?? Keep up with me, will ya? confused

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They repitition is a good brain washing tool! cool


[edit] Hey, where'd ya go, Shaky??


Use the QUANTUM to find me Deb. laughing


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Use the QUANTUM to find me Deb. laughing
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wow, that just happens to be the most important question


and one which i do not have an answer to. but one which you do not have an answer for either, one that will satisfy me anyway. infact, if there was, we wudnt be having this convo and you wud be a beleiver in psychics.

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and one which i do not have an answer to. but one which you do not have an answer for either, one that will satisfy me anyway. infact, if there was, we wudnt be having this convo and you wud be a beleiver in psychics.


but that just means that you are unwilling to accept any evidence which is contrary to your belief, whereas I say, produce the evidence to support what you believe.

Not being able to even think of a way to test a claim is worse than it being wrong.


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produce that one person

quite the contrary, I would not be sad. In fact, were I the one to find that person, it would essentially mean I could retire before I was 25.


u wud be sad that a sizeable part of your life was dedicated to the pursuit of a goal which didnt exist. u wud be sad that a significant amount of brain power was used to try and further and propogate that goal. you would also be sad that you were deceived by whatevr was around you into beleiving sumthing that wasnt true.
{ofcourse, IF it ever happens stick out tongue }

i didnt say that u wud be the one finding that person or any such people. it is highly unlikely that u will ever stumble on one let alone be aware of what they can do.

it is not upto me to "produce" people. i am not one of those people otherwise i may produce myself.

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u wud be sad that a sizeable part of your life was dedicated to the pursuit of a goal which didnt exist. u wud be sad that a significant amount of brain power was used to try and further and propogate that goal. you would also be sad that you were deceived by whatevr was around you into beleiving sumthing that wasnt true.
{ofcourse, IF it ever happens stick out tongue }

i didnt say that u wud be the one finding that person or any such people. it is highly unlikely that u will ever stumble on one let alone be aware of what they can do.

it is not upto me to "produce" people. i am not one of those people otherwise i may produce myself.


no, really, i'm not committed to the position that psychics don't exist. If they did, and if you think they do, then there must be some evidence.

From what is known of neurology, every possible explanation for psychic power that exists is asinine.


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but that just means that you are unwilling to accept any evidence which is contrary to your belief, whereas I say, produce the evidence to support what you believe.

Not being able to even think of a way to test a claim is worse than it being wrong.


contrary and negating are two different things. i accept most of the evidence which u might perceive to be contrary to my claim. but i have not seen anythignnegating it. but going further, i also accept evidence "for" my claim{and dont worry, it isnt sumthing purely intellectual or psuedo scientific like quantum mind theory or qualia}, and i have enough of that in my own personal expirience i think.
sadly, i am not a psychic or mystic, so i cant present any evidence that way. and i can not speak for people who may be, they are not lab rats and have their own reason for doing what they do.
you dont HAVE to beleive me u know. i just know that either way, it wont change sum facts from my perspective.

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no, really, i'm not committed to the position that psychics don't exist. If they did, and if you think they do, then there must be some evidence.

From what is known of neurology, every possible explanation for psychic power that exists is asinine.


what is known of neurology is little. that isnt any reason to dis it, but just saying. and neurology "might" not be all there is to it. it is often hard to integrate physical sciences with the way we see complex systems in the world working due to the fact that the probability of everything having unique order and not vreaking down into randomness and systems with no human/social macro structure is so much higher than the probability of probability based systems working to create and sustain the human mid/body and society etc. ofcourse, u can go ahead and critique that too.

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Yup, I believe in Psychic Abilities.

Specifically Sylvia Brown's Psychic Abilities.

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john madden is psychic. the man is never wrong


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Yup, I believe in Psychic Abilities.

Specifically Sylvia Brown's Psychic Abilities.

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john madden is psychic. the man is never wrong


You only know what you have been told. It is more likely that these people do not tell the public when they are wrong.


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There are others who claim they can sense your aura, in some way, and know what you are feeling even from a distance. Like some kind of intuition which expands outward. I am open to the possibility of such a thing.


i totally didnt read any further than this bc I thought this was soo unbeleivable

I have this. Like...not all the time...but I can feel different emotions in colors, or I can see people who have certain "colors"

idk, it sounds crazy, but on certain days, if I concentrate, people seem to....radiate a dull color....as though slightly tinted light is coming from them.

idk if that counts lol......


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You only know what you have been told. It is more likely that these people do not tell the public when they are wrong.
I only know what I've been told?

That makes no sense.

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I only know what I've been told?

That makes no sense.

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Do you know Sylvia Brown personally? Have you looked at all the predictions that person has made? Do you know who handles her press releases?

I didn't think so.


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Do you know Sylvia Brown personally? Have you looked at all the predictions that person has made? Do you know who handles her press releases?

I didn't think so.
You asked me a bunch of questions and you responded as if you already know the answers.

Huge Contradiction.

Don't tell me what I don't know........then assume you know the InnerGoings of my life.

Capiche?

Good.

You know only what you've been told. Oh guess what........I haven't told you anything.......therefore you know nothing.

I love how that works.

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You asked me a bunch of questions and you responded as if you already know the answers.

Huge Contradiction.

Don't tell me what I don't know........then assume you know the InnerGoings of my life.

Capiche?

Good.

You know only what you've been told. Oh guess what........I haven't told you anything.......therefore you know nothing.

I love how that works.

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No, I do not Capiche!


I was answering your question with an illustration. It really had nothing to do with you. Please try to look past yourself and understand. There are people in the world who make a living telling you (again, I am not talking about you personally, but you, I and everyone else generally) selective truths that can lead to a false impression of what they can do. Magicians do this all the time. Do you understand?


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Now Shaky, lighten up. I can do the circle, triangle, square thingie... big grin

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