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Luminatus
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All there is to go on for Doomguy IS gameplay.
That's how the classic FPS's worked.
Why Quakeguy and Duke Nukem are speedstars.

Also, where does the idea that bullets move in slow motion for Master Chief come from?

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the novels. the fall of reach to be exact.


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All there is to go on for Doomguy IS gameplay.
That's how the classic FPS's worked.
Why Quakeguy and Duke Nukem are speedstars.

Also, where does the idea that bullets move in slow motion for Master Chief come from?


The classic FPS also had a tendency of being unrealistic. Regular humans in any Half-Life mode and most other thinkable FPS games could tank several rounds to the head. Some even rocketlaunchers. I guess humans were just so much more powerful back in the days.


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Yeah.

If all the Doomguy supporters have is durability feats based on game mechanics, MC shoots him once.


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Game mechanics ia all Doomguy has. So it's either use that or don't even make a thrad with him.

Fact is classic FPS heroes are just better than Chief. They can outrun their own rockets, become invincible, have some insaenly wanked guns....that's how they were made.

And why Quake and Doom are better than Halo ever could be.

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Or those that actually support Doomguy can accept the fact that all he has is gameplay mechanics and that his true durability is not at all impressive in truth. I mean, we've all seen the movie Doom. Unless stated otherwise, we can assume that he's as durable as those guys.

You know he's a geneticly enhanced human. The same way you know that, you know his limits. You know he has enhanced senses, speed and accuracy. So the same way you know that, you know if he is more durable or not.


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Why the heck would you assume he's equal to his movie Doom self? Lana/Peach already said the comics version of Pyron/Darkstalkers wasn't allowes so why would the movie version o fDoom be used?

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Why the heck would you assume he's equal to his movie Doom self? Lana/Peach already said the comics version of Pyron/Darkstalkers wasn't allowes so why would the movie version o fDoom be used?


Wasn't saying he's equal. Read my post again.


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Personally, I never count any comics or manga as canon, regardless of whether they are officially backed or not. If it didnt happen in the game, it didnt happen, period. Just a simple precaution to keep away from the fanfiction (damn Sonic fans...)


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As far as I've seen, Doomguy does posess extraordinary luck, I mean he's the sole survivor and victor over hell in ANY Doom game, avoiding hell's mindraping too...


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Kay.

So he has some good mental constitution.

And he is not better than Master "Gary Stu" Chief simply because he does not even have a name.

If he has no feats other than gameplay mechanic shit, he loses, and he should NOT be put in threads.


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How is picking up a Invulnerability artifact a gameplay mechanic?

its not much different to Master cheif getting his overshield item.


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I was not talking about the invulnerability artifact.


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Personally, I never count any comics or manga as canon, regardless of whether they are officially backed or not. If it didnt happen in the game, it didnt happen, period.

If it's officially backed, then it most likely did happen, like it or not. Something doesn't always have to happen in a game for it to be considered canon.

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Just a simple precaution to keep away from the fanfiction (damn Sonic fans...)

That's something totally different.


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Yeah...Fanfiction is made by the fans, not made by the company that makes the games or a company officially given the authority to do so by the father company.


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Unless the fanfiction is written by me, it's not alright


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And I totally understand where you guys are coming from. I just personally feel that if the information is that important, it shouldve been put in the game, that's all.

Call me crazy, but this is what I believe:
Game content > what a creator speaks or what official comics say

In layman's terms, the game content is the bible for what is canon.


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For you I suppose. erm


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only the cutscenes in a game are the primary canon and they only take precedence over non-game canon if there is a direct contradiction.


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Well, I'm assuming that you guys have a little discernment when it comes to gameplay being canon. Like the whole "I need to get the key to open the fence that I could just hop over." scenario. :/


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