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grey fox
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****......Thats just ****ing insane.....but what I dont get is doent MM have trouble with lesser beings? I mean if hes that good surelly he must be unstoppable....doesnt make any sense.


And J'onn smashed his way through the guys Psychic Barriers !

Respect Is Needed wink


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****......Thats just ****ing insane.....but what I dont get is doent MM have trouble with lesser beings? I mean if hes that good surelly he must be unstoppable....doesnt make any sense.


Telepaths are a funny breed. They don't always like to use thier Tp powers to the fullest.


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Listen MM is not beating World War Hulk. Not in his dreams, maybe here on KMC but the Hulk has the power to break the Martian. If Gladiator can fall to Hulk J'onn will as well.


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ahem......PROVE IT THAT MM IS MUCH MORE ADVANCED WHEN IT COMES TO PHASING!!!!!!!!





WWH resisted Xaviers TP which therefore proves hes has mental resistance like the Savage Hulk. no expression


Did Xavier attack him? Noooo, he simply tried to freeze him.


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Listen MM is not beating World War Hulk. Not in his dreams, maybe here on KMC but the Hulk has the power to break the Martian. If Gladiator can fall to Hulk J'onn will as well.


He fell because of his weakness.

Which MM doesn't have so Hulk loses.


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Im going to give credit that is due. MM is one of the highest top tiers on the forum. He is basically>>superman, wonderwoman, gladiator, etc.. due to versatility. I give the same respect to thor, beta ray bill, and silver surfer (and other heralds) due to versatility. BUT martian manhunters dont use the powers that he has. In comics he is weak. Wonderwoman and superman solos a team of jla and he be right along with the bunch that is getting soloed.

Im going to give him a edge over hulk this time, I just need to think about it for a while because hulk has become extremely powerful. If martian manhunter used his powers like they should be used, he COULD possibly be unstoppable.


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Im going to give credit that is due. MM is one of the highest top tiers on the forum. He is basically>>superman, wonderwoman, gladiator, etc.. due to versatility. I give the same respect to thor, beta ray bill, and silver surfer (and other heralds) due to versatility. BUT martian manhunters dont use the powers that he has. In comics he is weak. Wonderwoman and superman solos a team of jla and he be right along with the bunch that is getting soloed.

Im going to give him a edge over hulk this time, I just need to think about it for a while because hulk has become extremely powerful. If martian manhunter used his powers like they should be used, he COULD possibly be unstoppable.


Unstoppable? nah. Firestorm.


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Unstoppable? nah. Firestorm.


I agree. I hate using firestorm, hes a walking plot device.


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Listen MM is not beating World War Hulk. Not in his dreams, maybe here on KMC but the Hulk has the power to break the Martian. If Gladiator can fall to Hulk J'onn will as well.



Gladiator fell due to Hulk ramming him into his weakness. Hulk could beat Supes if they started the fight in a room full of K-nite.


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Gladiator fell due to Hulk ramming him into his weakness. Hulk could beat Supes if they started the fight in a room full of K-nite.


No he couldn't shifty


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No he couldn't shifty


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In comics he is weak. Wonderwoman and superman solos a team of jla and he be right along with the bunch that is getting soloed.


As thought J'onn has never gotten JLA-soloing moments of his own.

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The Green Scar takes it alone. One Punch and MMH dies

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the ridiculous is the 'real', as far as character power-set goes. it's not as if it's some one-time trick, he does that several times.

not my fault you're ignorant of the character, yet arrogant enough to set limits to what he can and can't do (within the bounds of comics).



sorry but to me it doens´t make sense breaking someones arm if that person his not in a physically form, how can you break a spirit bone if the spirit doens´t have bones?


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sorry but to me it doens´t make sense breaking someones arm if that person his not in a physically form, how can you break a spirit bone if the spirit doens´t have bones?

because they're indicating that both Strange and Hulk are physically connected to the Astral Plane. that they are not Spectral bodies (devoid of material substance) but outgrowths of material forms.

it's like the way Neo gets a bloody mouth from falling whilst inside The Matrix.


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If Strange had decided to appear as an octopus, and Hulk broke four out of his eight tentacles, would Strange's physical tentacles be broken too?


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If Strange had decided to appear as an octopus, and Hulk broke four out of his eight tentacles, would Strange's physical tentacles be broken too?


It's magical astral projection. I can't even remember the scene properly. For some reason I'm under the impression that Strange appeared in the Hulks head as a intagible Blue Astral Projection and when Banners "consciousness" showed up and Strange thought he helped the Hulk and extended his hand he "magically" became corporeal on the astral level(coloured).


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And J'onn smashed his way through the guys Psychic Barriers !

Respect Is Needed wink


Wait a second though isnt their PIS somewhere here. Either hes hundreds of lower showings that contradict and that feat is PIS. Or its PIS there is even a JLA comic. I mean if this guy is that powerful he could literally scan the universe or earth 247 and if anybody tried anything that would get mindripped.


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MM can not defeat WWHulk.

For Obvious reasons In ANY toe to toe physical confrontation Hulk goes 10/10. Jonn is not in WWHulk's league physically and durability wise.

Mentally MM has 0 chances against WWH's will.

Phasing has 0 effect on WWH.

In any typical showing for both characters, we are likely talking about a Stalemate, as Jonn has many abilities to help him avoid taking potentially life-threatening physical damage from the WWH, and he would be stupid to do so, and has 0 motivation for that type of risk.

so......Stalemate 10/10 in any typical confrontation.


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If Strange had decided to appear as an octopus, and Hulk broke four out of his eight tentacles, would Strange's physical tentacles be broken too?


You just have to love Pak.


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