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Galan007
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Prime owns Wildfire:

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After a brief battle between "Trapper-Boy-Prime" and the Legion, he is transported to his younger self. When the younger version of Prime attacks his future self, they are seemingly erased:

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We then see that Prime has not been erased, but instead, has been teleported to his resurrected Earth-Prime.

However, we come to find that Prime's entire family had been following his comic story, because Earth-Prime is essentially 'our' Earth:

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And because Prime lives on 'our' Earth now, he is able to shatter the 4th Wall [if you can even say there still is one for him], and speak to the reader/read the same comics we do..

"They think I'm powerless. They think I can't do anything from here.... They'll never get rid of me. I always survive":

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Its been hinted that the "Threeboot" Legion is from a reconstituted Earth Prime. I think thats why the kryptonite "Threeboot" element lad made hurt SBP.
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So they they have the most powerful superman who happens to be insane. Walking around in the real world


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So they they have the most powerful superman who happens to be insane. Walking around in the real world


looks like he will have only time trapper powers now


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looks like he will have only time trapper powers now
actually, it was explained in the story that TT's powers are exactly what prime will not be retaining - as those energies, and the person utilizing them, are in a constant state of fluctuation:

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if anything, prime will just keep his regular powers [ergo the glowing red eyes in this scan]:

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actually, it was explained in the story that TT's powers are exactly what prime will not be retaining - as those energies, and the person utilizing them, are in a constant state of fluctuation:

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if anything, prime will just keep his regular powers [ergo the glowing red eyes in this scan]:

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thumb up him being the Time Trapper was one possible future


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actually, it was explained in the story that TT's powers are exactly what prime will not be retaining - as those energies, and the person utilizing them, are in a constant state of fluctuation:

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if anything, prime will just keep his regular powers [ergo the glowing red eyes in this scan]:

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that makes a lot of since but 1. what part in the scan did it say that prime would not be getting TT's powers (in one time line he must have) to me it just said that anything is possible. 2. he said to his parents don't want what happened to his old girl friend to happen to them. I just assumed that, that meant something different then just killing her i could very well be wrong about that since they don't say what happened to her. 3. TT had red glowing eyes as well.


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nice thread though i really enjoy it.


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There's something I don't get: If that Legion is from the Earth-Prime universe, and Superboy Prime is the Superman of that universe, then how could the Legion have formed there, since the Legion was supposed to have been inspired by the heroic deeds of Superboy/Man?


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And because Prime lives on 'our' Earth now, he is able to shatter the 4th Wall [if you can even say there still is one for him], and speak to the reader/read the same comics we do..


So Prime managed to get his earth back? smile


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So Prime managed to get his earth back? smile


yup, but on his earth, everyone read the comics he's been in, so they know he's evil.


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yup, but on his earth, everyone read the comics he's been in, so they know he's evil.


Hes not evil though. Hes screwed up and eventhough his actions are wrong I cant see why people cant at least sympathise with him ie 90 % of people in the same situation as SBP would have ended up evil as well.

Hes no Dr Light or Lex. erm


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Hes not evil though. Hes screwed up and eventhough his actions are wrong I cant see why people cant at least sympathise with him ie 90 % of people in the same situation as SBP would have ended up evil as well.

Hes no Dr Light or Lex. erm


he killed plenty of heroes, and mocked the ones that he didn't kill. sure, you have sympathy for the guy, but there's no excuse for what he did. he even allied himself with the sinestro corps and wanted to destroy the earth (and destroyed one in another universe). there's only so much leeway you can give a character, imo.


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he killed plenty of heroes, and mocked the ones that he didn't kill. sure, you have sympathy for the guy, but there's no excuse for what he did. he even allied himself with the sinestro corps and wanted to destroy the earth (and destroyed one in another universe). there's only so much leeway you can give a character, imo.


Sure so if you were in the same situation as him you're pretty sure you wouldnt have ended up evil? Have you even been in any situation comparable to what SBP's been through?


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Sure so if you were in the same situation as him you're pretty sure you wouldnt have ended up evil? Have you even been in any situation comparable to what SBP's been through?


he's not the first so called hero to experience loss. most of the x-men have lost people. martian manhunter. superman. kyle rayner. batman. thor. the hulk.

they all lost people close to them, and they didn't turn bad. sure, prime going bad has reasons behind it, but he is bad. he's not simply misunderstood. he wanted to shatter oa. he killed e2 superman among others. and now look at him. he has a higher body count than lex and doctor light combined. just because he's not a rapist or a manipulator doesn't mean he's not a bad person.


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he's not the first so called hero to experience loss. most of the x-men have lost people. martian manhunter. superman. kyle rayner. batman. thor. the hulk.

they all lost people close to them, and they didn't turn bad. sure, prime going bad has reasons behind it, but he is bad. he's not simply misunderstood. he wanted to shatter oa. he killed e2 superman among others. and now look at him. he has a higher body count than lex and doctor light combined. just because he's not a rapist or a manipulator doesn't mean he's not a bad person.


Thats not comparable SBP lost a whole universe. Secondly when all this happened he wasnt an adult (which makes it harder for him to deal with it Batman is still not comparable) he didnt have anybody to talk to and was even manipulated into thinking the heroes were evil, thirdly he was actually driven almost insane those examples are different. Its not just about him experiencing loss there are other factors as well which make it his situation different from the examples you have listed.

To elaborate further some of the reason why certain heroes havent turned out to be evil is because of the people they know eg Batman had Alfred the X-men had Professor X and Superman had his step-parents. How is a teenager whos almost been driven mad and is being manipulated to do evil supposed to turn out good?

Heres some food for thought.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman:_The_Dark_Side


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Thats not comparable SBP lost a whole universe. Secondly when all this happened he wasnt an adult (which makes it harder for him to deal with it Batman is still not comparable) he didnt have anybody to talk to and was even manipulated into thinking the heroes were evil, thirdly he was actually driven almost insane those examples are different. Its not just about him experiencing loss there are other factors as well which make it his situation different from the examples you have listed.

To elaborate further some of the reason why certain heroes havent turned out to be evil is because of the people they know eg Batman had Alfred the X-men had Professor X and Superman had his step-parents. How is a teenager whos almost been driven mad and is being manipulated to do evil supposed to turn out good?

Heres some food for thought.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman:_The_Dark_Side


he cared for maybe 3 people in that entire universe. i seriously doubt he gives a shit about a random alien on random planet #47.

he's old enough now to be accountable for his actions, and he still refuses to be.

i don't agree at all. yes, he was manipulated by alex luthor, but that just makes him look a hell of a lot worse.

superboy prime lived with earth 2 superman, a living legend. if that's not enough to keep him on the straight and narrow, nothing is.

yes, i read that book, and what happens in the end? superman redeems himself.


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huh

PZ asked the question, i was simply trying to provide the answer...


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