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batdude123
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She'd do better against BA than she would against Superman.


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She'd do better against BA than she would against Superman.


I doubt it, and the skill argument you touted for her would be more applicable for this debate than it would be against Adam. All in all, Adam and the man of steel are pretty much equals in all attributes other than skill.

What I find funny however is that posters like to take Superman stopping Mjolnir mid swing as an indication of Superman's physical superiority yet ignore that Captain Marvel caught the fist of an Eclipso amped Superman..

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Originally posted by Larceny
I doubt it, and the skill argument you touted for her would be more applicable for this debate than it would be against Adam. All in all, Adam and the man of steel are pretty much equals in all attributes other than skill.

What I find funny however is that posters like to take Superman stopping Mjolnir mid swing as an indication of Superman's physical superiority yet ignore that Captain Marvel caught the fist of an Eclipso amped Superman..


You're right, because Superman is more skilled than Black Adam. He has more experience as well with his hundred year war against Gog and his thousand year war in Asgard.

Not to mention Superman is faster and he has many more powers at his disposal.

You stole that statement from UniOmni.


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You're right, because Superman is more skilled than Black Adam. He has more experience as well with his hundred year war against Gog and his thousand year war in Asgard.

Not to mention Superman is faster and he has many more powers at his disposal.

You stole that statement from UniOmni.


No he isn't. He spent 1000 years in Asgard fighting chumps, and returned with little to no signs of advanced skill.

Yeah he fought in the hundred year war and returned with what, the same right hook he's always thrown?

He's not faster, however if he is, it's travel speed which is completely irrelevant to a vs forum battle.

He has one more power, Ice Breathe. no expression

Because it made sense. no expression

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BA would do worse for 2 reasons. 1. Less skill. 2. His powers are magic based.

And what does Wondy have a high resistance against?

And show me one time BA has used martial arts, or pressure points, or fought high end opponents when he was depowered. Supes has. Also, Supes is vastly superior in using his powers due to using them intelligently and not just brawling.


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BA would do worse for 2 reasons. 1. Less skill. 2. His powers are magic based.

And what does Wondy have a high resistance against?

And show me one time BA has used martial arts, or pressure points, or fought high end opponents when he was depowered. Supes has. Also, Supes is vastly superior in using his powers due to using them intelligently and not just brawling.



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Since when did having your powers magically granted to you mean that every kick and punch you threw was magically based?


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Alright, I admit that was a bit of a stretch. embarrasment But it does weaken magic punching and lightning spamming as effective weapons.


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No he isn't. He spent 1000 years in Asgard fighting chumps, and returned with little to no signs of advanced skill.

Yeah he fought in the hundred year war and returned with what, the same right hook he's always thrown?

He's not faster, however if he is, it's travel speed which is completely irrelevant to a vs forum battle.

He has one more power, Ice Breathe. no expression

Because it made sense. no expression


Your lack of Superman knowledge is becoming obvious. Superman, on many occasions has shown to be a highly trained and skilled fighter. More so than Adam by quite a bit.

Indeed he is faster. In combat speed and travel speed. He has a lot more impressive combat speed feats than Adam.

Along with intangibility, invisibility, T-Vo, sonic whistle, all kinds of vision powers... not to mention a variety of odd/unusual effects Superman can achieve with a little creative usage of his power set.


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Along with intangibility, invisibility, T-Vo, sonic whistle, all kinds of vision powers... not to mention a variety of odd/unusual effects Superman can achieve with a little creative usage of his power set.
And he'd use any of this in a fight against WW? messed

I mean, I know that's not what you meant... but the argument did spark because of Superman/BA vs WW...


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No he isn't. He spent 1000 years in Asgard fighting chumps, and returned with little to no signs of advanced skill.

Yeah he fought in the hundred year war and returned with what, the same right hook he's always thrown?

He's not faster, however if he is, it's travel speed which is completely irrelevant to a vs forum battle.

He has one more power, Ice Breathe. no expression

Because it made sense. no expression
We also know that Black Adam is considered to be a bit stronger than CM. Several characters have noted it, and we've seen how they fared in combat several times as well in the JSA, powers of Shazam, and other appearances.

And we saw Black Adam pretty much conceed defeat to a Superman who was just started getting serious, by backing down from him during one of the Villains United tie ins in one of Superman's comics. And don't give me anything about him not wanting to fight, because he didn't give any effort to not battle the whole rest of the issue. But the minute Superman confirmed he was about to end the fight, Black Adam turned away and didn't want to fight anymore and flew off.

How about Heat Vision? Got a scan of Black Adam using it?


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Alright, I admit that was a bit of a stretch. embarrasment But it does weaken magic punching and lightning spamming as effective weapons.


Which means nil considering Adam's rarely if ever uses magic to enhance his punches, however he has used lightning and it may prove effective.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...kadamvsyeti.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...adamvsyeti1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...adamvsyeti2.jpg

BTW, Adam's been alive for 2000 years and was a warrior before becoming Shazams warrior. He's fairly skilled.

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We also know that Black Adam is considered to be a bit stronger than CM.

Fail, brother. sad


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Originally posted by Larceny
Which means nil considering Adam's rarely if ever uses magic to enhance his punches, however he has used lightning and it may prove effective.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...kadamvsyeti.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...adamvsyeti1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...adamvsyeti2.jpg

BTW, Adam's been alive for 2000 years and was a warrior before becoming Shazams warrior. He's fairly skilled.
Yet I haven't seen him use it.


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Is BA really stronger? Or is it cause CM splits his power? Btw, welcome back juntai. happy new year. big grin


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Fail, brother. sad
Superman said he was stronger. Other characters have too. Adam's appearances have all but verified it. He's had the upper hand on CM several times in solo combat. Remember Adam smashing up Captain Marvel and the JSA at once?


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Is BA really stronger? Or is it cause CM splits his power? Btw, welcome back juntai. happy new year. big grin
Thanks.


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We also know that Black Adam is considered to be a bit stronger than CM. Several characters have noted it, and we've seen how they fared in combat several times as well in the JSA, powers of Shazam, and other appearances.

And we saw Black Adam pretty much conceed defeat to a Superman who was just started getting serious, by backing down from him during one of the Villains United tie ins in one of Superman's comics. And don't give me anything about him not wanting to fight, because he didn't give any effort to not battle the whole rest of the issue. But the minute Superman confirmed he was about to end the fight, Black Adam turned away and didn't want to fight anymore and flew off.

How about Heat Vision? Got a scan of Black Adam using it?


I know, and I also know Marvel has proven himself equal to Superman in strength on quite a few occasions. Twice stalemating him arm wrestling contest, and as I said, he's caught Superman's fist while he was amped. This in a sense would indicate Adam's slight physical superiority, now I'm not saying he is, but by being slightly superior to Marvel he would also be slightly superior to the man of steel.

Your talking about this correct?

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...%20Feats/03.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...%20Feats/04.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...Feats/05-06.jpg
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http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...%20Feats/15.jpg
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http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...%20Feats/17.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...%20Feats/18.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...%20Feats/19.jpg

Didn't look like he was scared to fight, he simply didn't wish to. This in no way is an indication of how a forum battle would go as Adam would be blood lusted.

No, but that would be the same as me asking for proof of Superman using lightning.

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Superman said he was stronger. Other characters have too. Adam's appearances have all but verified it. He's had the upper hand on CM several times in solo combat. Remember Adam smashing up Captain Marvel and the JSA at once?

Adam is more aggressive than Billy. I would imagine he hits harder and he might be the better fighter too but I would hardly consider any of that evidence of being overall more powerful. It's not as if CM didn't lay it on Adam a few times himself.


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Didn't look like he was scared to fight, he simply didn't wish to. This in no way is an indication of how a forum battle would go as Adam would be blood lusted.

No, but that would be the same as me asking for proof of Superman using lightning.
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And don't give me anything about him not wanting to fight, because he didn't give any effort to not battle the whole rest of the issue. But the minute Superman confirmed he was about to end the fight, Black Adam turned away and didn't want to fight anymore and flew off.


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