KMC Forums - Michael Demiurgos the Archangel Respect Thread

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Originally posted by Desaad
Most of those are...sad, to be honest.

None of the back covers of issues or TPBs are canon, so your first four scans are meaningless; solicits and covers are often misleading, much less adverts of that type.

Even if you don't consider it canon, they describe exactly what happens in the series. Not misleading in the least.

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Originally posted by Desaad
The scan of someone saying "a hole in the universe" is referring specifically to THIS universe, the MAIN universe, not to anything that Lucifer created.

Okay, but further down the same page Michael tells Lucifer that God will only allow one creation (after the use of "a hole in the universe"), respectively implying that Lucifer created a Universe.

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Originally posted by Desaad
The rest can be easily explained as not being encompassing enough. A multiverse certainly contains a universe, so when Lucifer, or the narration, or some random god or faerie refers to what Lucifer has as a universe, it can easily be explained as simplification, and nothing more.

Please leave the comedic claims out of this respect thread. I provide instances where Lucifer literally calls his creation a universe, the narrator literally calls the creation a universe, other characters in the series calling Lucficer's creation a universe and you simply denounce it as simplification. Simply not going to cut it. If the author wanted to clearly illustrate that Lucifer created a multiverse, he would have used the word "multiverse" (like Shooter did in SWII). Plus there are more instances later in the series that refer to the creation as a universe. Elaine as she is flying over Lucifer's universe sees the defects and imperfections of his creation (just a universe), and you're trying to convince me that Lucifer created a multiverse? Not gonna work.

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Originally posted by Desaad
The only instance we have of Lucifer specifically refuting one with the other is the Nirvana instance, previously provided, where it is made abundantly clear that this is a multiverse, not a universe.

That's just one example. Do you even know what the word abundant means? All it counts for is one claim that Lucifer made, and this happened in a one-shot, which though you may consider to be cannon, was meant to be a standalone story, completely unnecessary for all the other events that occurred in the actual series.

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Originally posted by Desaad
Until you can provide a similar example of someone calling it a multiverse, and then being corrected into calling it a universe...well, you know the drill.

Proving that Lucifer shaped only a universe doesn't necessitate that I find someone contradicting him calling his creation a universe. It was made abundantly clear throughout the series that he created only a cosmos, a creation, a universe, all synonyms of each other.

Plus, I don't want to see anymore spam in this thread. If you still believe otherwise, we can argue on the comic book vs forum, not on this respect thread.