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TricksterPriest
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Last thing I can remember is him taking out the Star Conquerer. JLA couldn't even scratch it, only Orion was able to hurt it with a strong blast of the AF. Didn't kill it, just pissed it off. In the end, Dream stepped in and trapped the Conquerer inside an endless dream.

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King Kandy
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Right but nothing all that impressive. Nothing mxy level.

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Based on feats, myx wins. With basically omniversal type characters its hard to judge based on much else.

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Dream is above 5th dimensional imps as far as I�m concerned. Dream should take this.

Nov 10th, 2017 02:18 PM

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According to Zauriel, imps exist outside of creation.

You'd think the fifth dimension would be just that, another dimension of creation, but the way he put it makes it seem like 5d imps are from a different continuum entirely, and not subject to the Presence's rules.

While the Endless are most certainly cogs in the Presence's machine.

In theory, Mxy > Presence. (Would heaven mobilize against anything less then a threat to everything? They never did this in all the Crisis's, not against Anti Monitor or Parallax, or any of that..)

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Dream win easily

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Originally posted by cdtm
According to Zauriel, imps exist outside of creation.

You'd think the fifth dimension would be just that, another dimension of creation, but the way he put it makes it seem like 5d imps are from a different continuum entirely, and not subject to the Presence's rules.

While the Endless are most certainly cogs in the Presence's machine.

In theory, Mxy > Presence. (Would heaven mobilize against anything less then a threat to everything? They never did this in all the Crisis's, not against Anti Monitor or Parallax, or any of that..)

Being outside of Creation doesn't inherently make Mxy superior to the Endless, kek. That's horrendous logic.

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Dream embodies all of realities as well as dreaming. Mxy powers are based on imagination which is something dream has completely control over it. With a portion of dreams power Morpheus gatekeeper imprisoned the entire host of lord of orders and chaos. Dark multiverse is something which dream has influence over it is said to be ocean compared to the size of Dc creation. Mxy gets stomped

Nov 11th, 2017 01:33 PM

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Being outside of Creation doesn't inherently make Mxy superior to the Endless, kek. That's horrendous logic.

No it doesn't, but my greater point is heaven itself felt 5d imps were enough of a threat to mobilize against them.

Which says tons about their threat level relative to all the other threats they basically ignored.

But if you need something more concrete, I can't see Morpheus making a fool of Spectre like Mxy has.

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TethAdamTheRock
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Lol Mxy stomps

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No it doesn't, but my greater point is heaven itself felt 5d imps were enough of a threat to mobilize against them.

Which says tons about their threat level relative to all the other threats they basically ignored.

But if you need something more concrete, I can't see Morpheus making a fool of Spectre like Mxy has.

Yes, they were capable of mobilizing against them. Not the Presence/Michael/Lucifer, though.

I mean, even Cronus was able to fight through the host of heaven in his attempt to grab Yahweh's power. I doubt the imps are threats to Yahweh/Lucifer/Michael specifically.

I could definitely see Morpheus doing that tbh, especially after reading DoV. That said, (not counting WF,) the only time Mxy has cucked Spectre was during the events of Emperor Joker, and that wasn't even Unbound Spectre.

As for who wins this fight...I'm not sure, tbh. Maybe Mxy? I dunno.

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Yes, they were capable of mobilizing against them. Not the Presence/Michael/Lucifer, though.

I mean, even Cronus was able to fight through the host of heaven in his attempt to grab Yahweh's power. I doubt the imps are threats to Yahweh/Lucifer/Michael specifically.

I could definitely see Morpheus doing that tbh, especially after reading DoV. That said, (not counting WF,) the only time Mxy has cucked Spectre was during the events of Emperor Joker, and that wasn't even Unbound Spectre.

As for who wins this fight...I'm not sure, tbh. Maybe Mxy? I dunno.

There's also Lightning Saga and Worlds Funnest.

And comparing to Day of Vengeance, Dream had trouble with humans like Thessaly.

He also implied he wouldn't have beaten Azazal outside of The Dreaming.

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So in dreams realm most likely dream since he cannot be defeated there

But outside his "M-body" can be destroyed is this about the way it will go down... in your opinion

So is Dream like a DC version of Marvel's Nightmare?
If so Nightmare is supreme ruler of his realms, however I do believe his realm could be destroyed. Also I know myx has the ability to stop sleep and thererby destroy dream by "taking dreams away" It's kinda hard to destroy a concept but in the comics they portray concepts as beings like love or hate or even death and so on..... basically up to writers

Dec 5th, 2017 02:11 PM