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What makes you believe Wonder Woman takes this?

Speedblitz?

Hay guyz, what's the difference between Wonder Woman and Namor?

Namor has legit wins over high end Class 100s

Wonder Woman has legit didn't get her ass steam rolled like everyone thought she would and put up a respectable showings against high end Class 100s



That is outright bias. Name one, just one person Namor has fought and won against, who is comparable to a DC top tier. Oh that's right. NONE.

You think anyone he's fought is comparable to a white martian? Or Superman? Or Zoom? Her holding her own, is far more than Namor could ever do against that kind of power.

Jeeze man, even freaking Darkcrawler won't give Namor a single win over Wondy. erm


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That is outright bias. Name one, just one person Namor has fought and won against, who is comparable to a DC top tier. Oh that's right. NONE.


Hulk
Abom
Thor
Silver Surfer
Apoc
Herc
etc etc etc.

You think anyone he's fought is comparable to a white martian?

Sure.

Or Superman?


Who rapes her ass everytime they meet?

Oh wait, Maxwell Lord, lol.

Or Zoom?

Who beat her ass across the Earth until he went on a CIS induced rampage?


Her holding her own, is far more than Namor could ever do against that kind of power.


I know, he'd probably steal a win or two if he could drag them in the water and force them to fight there, unlike Wonder Woman, who gets her ass kicked on land and water equally.

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Namor could hold his own against White Martians, because they suck. mad


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Oops fought and won against

Only 3 people on that list have arguable/outright L's

Unlike the White Martian on Trickster's list.

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Wonder Woman = 100

Namor is ???

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Hulk
Abom
Thor
Silver Surfer
Apoc
Herc
etc etc etc.

You think anyone he's fought is comparable to a white martian?

Sure.

Or Superman?


Who rapes her ass everytime they meet?

Oh wait, Maxwell Lord, lol.

Or Zoom?

Who beat her ass across the Earth until he went on a CIS induced rampage?


Her holding her own, is far more than Namor could ever do against that kind of power.


I know, he'd probably steal a win or two if he could drag them in the water and force them to fight there, unlike Wonder Woman, who gets her ass kicked on land and water equally.


Hulk= Once, in water. Guarantee he wouldn't get that win on land.
Abom= A joke compared to Wondy.
Thor= You and I both know Thor would spank Namor's ass if he went all out. roll eyes (sarcastic)
Silver Surfer= Surfer was obviously jobbing.
Apoc=.............Go to hell. That table thing was not a win. miffed
Herc= Don't know this one.

And you really think Namor would last 5 seconds against a pissed Superman? Or Zoom? His brains would splatter from one punch.

Drag them into the water? laughing out loud He's really gonna drag Superman, into the water? Wouldn't matter anyway. Supes would rip him a new one. And let's not even discuss Zoom. Namor would never even touch him.

Wonder Woman is far far above a class 100. You don't help move the moon and get called a mere class 100. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Hulk= Once, in water. Guarantee he wouldn't get that win on land.


Guarantee Wonder Woman wouldn't get a win.

Abom= A joke compared to Wondy.

A being twice the Hulk is a joke compared to Wondy?

Thor= You and I both know Thor would spank Namor's ass if he went all out. roll eyes (sarcastic)


Like how kryptonians spank Wonder Woman's ass on a daily basis?

Silver Surfer= Surfer was obviously jobbing.

Like all of Wonder Woman's opponents do when she wins.

Apoc=.............Go to hell. That table thing was not a win. miffed


Oops you got me.


And you really think Namor would last 5 seconds against a pissed Superman? Or Zoom? His brains would splatter from one punch.

Why? They couldn't even splatter Wonder Woman's brains from a punch.

Drag them into the water? laughing out loud He's really gonna drag Superman, into the water?

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If Superman decides to fight Namor in the water, then Namor has a shot to win 2-4 out of 10.

No matter where Superman decides to fight Wonder Woman she's going to lose.

Wouldn't matter anyway. Supes would rip him a new one. And let's not even discuss Zoom.


I agree, they'd put a similar beat down on him as they do with Wondie.

Namor would never even touch him.

Why not? Wonder Woman can.

Wonder Woman is far far above a class 100.

If by far far above a class 100 you mean at the very bottom of the mid tier CL 100's or right where Namor is at the top of the low end CL 100's then you are correct.

You don't help move the moon and get called a mere class 100. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Help as in aided. I could help move the moon with Superman on the other side of me tugging as well, doesn't mean I'm even a class .1

You never answered the question IOW

Wonder Woman = 100
Namor = ???

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Namor beat Surfer?

And Thor?
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Either way... Namor = man. WW = woman. It's not compicated to figure out who wins here. erm


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Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Guarantee Wonder Woman wouldn't get a win.

Abom= A joke compared to Wondy.

A being twice the Hulk is a joke compared to Wondy?

Thor= You and I both know Thor would spank Namor's ass if he went all out. roll eyes (sarcastic)


Like how kryptonians spank Wonder Woman's ass on a daily basis?

Silver Surfer= Surfer was obviously jobbing.

Like all of Wonder Woman's opponents do when she wins.

Apoc=.............Go to hell. That table thing was not a win. miffed


Oops you got me.


And you really think Namor would last 5 seconds against a pissed Superman? Or Zoom? His brains would splatter from one punch.

Why? They couldn't even splatter Wonder Woman's brains from a punch.

Drag them into the water? laughing out loud He's really gonna drag Superman, into the water?

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If Superman decides to fight Namor in the water, then Namor has a shot to win 2-4 out of 10.

No matter where Superman decides to fight Wonder Woman she's going to lose.

Wouldn't matter anyway. Supes would rip him a new one. And let's not even discuss Zoom.


I agree, they'd put a similar beat down on him as they do with Wondie.

Namor would never even touch him.

Why not? Wonder Woman can.

Wonder Woman is far far above a class 100.

If by far far above a class 100 you mean at the very bottom of the mid tier CL 100's or right where Namor is at the top of the low end CL 100's then you are correct.

You don't help move the moon and get called a mere class 100. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Help as in aided. I could help move the moon with Superman on the other side of me tugging as well, doesn't mean I'm even a class .1

You never answered the question IOW

Wonder Woman = 100
Namor = ???




Abom= A joke compared to Wondy.

A being twice the Hulk is a joke compared to Wondy?

Yes, he is.

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Let's see Abom do that.


Namor would never even touch him.

Why not? Wonder Woman can.

You severely underestimate her speed. Namor won't touch her.

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Wondy is closer to a class 100,000.

Namor is a low-mid CL100.

This probably isn't canon per Zero Hour and IC, but check it out.

Even under one of her weakest depictions in the post crisis era, Diana is able to fight and get the eventual better of a Daxamite warrior.Who are said to be as strong as Superman or the Martian Manhunter. (Wonder Woman #71)
1.http://img102.echo.cx/my.php?image=ww7118eg.jpg
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And you really think Namor would last 5 seconds against a pissed Superman? Or Zoom? His brains would splatter from one punch.

Why? They couldn't even splatter Wonder Woman's brains from a punch.

Now you're just ignoring evidence. she is much much tougher than you believe.

Diana survives and saves others from a tech made black hole.

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About the blackhole thing...regular humans survived it, so.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding something about it.


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Alright, you got me on that one. stick out tongue But she's still far superior to these 2 in every way possible.


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Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Namor beat Surfer?

And Thor?


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Oops fought and won against

Only 3 people on that list have arguable/outright L's

Unlike the White Martian on Trickster's list.

sad

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Wonder Woman = 100

Namor is ???

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Let's see Abom do that.

Let's see Abom learn how to fly.


You severely underestimate her speed. Namor won't touch her.

Why not? Black Canary has. BTW you do realize Namor has IN FIGHT reactionary feats breaking several mach don't you? The fastest reaction feat I think Wonder Woman has under her belt is being punched from Earth to the Sun in a few seconds. Lol Wonder Woman.

Wondy is closer to a class 100,000.

Namor is a low-mid CL100.


Class 100,000 = Class 100

If you want to use feats, Class 100,000 would put Wonder Woman on the lower end of Class 100, actually. So by your own admission Namor > Wonder Woman.


This probably isn't canon per Zero Hour and IC, but check it out.

Even under one of her weakest depictions in the post crisis era, Diana is able to fight and get the eventual better of a Daxamite warrior.Who are said to be as strong as Superman or the Martian Manhunter. (Wonder Woman #71)
1.http://img102.echo.cx/my.php?image=ww7118eg.jpg
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6.http://img248.echo.cx/my.php?image=ww7166zf.jpg


Oh look, a moral victory where Wonder Woman is sweating her ass off while the Daxam shows zero signs of fatigue and is said to have let her win after dominating her and easily over powering her several times in the match.

How very impressive, I DOUBT Namor could do the same. roll eyes (sarcastic)


Now you're just ignoring evidence. she is much much tougher than you believe.

So Wonder Woman is that much tougher then Namor that Superman has to exert effort to kill her while being able to splatter him with a punch?

BTW you continue to dodge the question

Wonder Woman = 100
Namor = ???

PS: How fast you are doesn't really matter to Zoom, at least the Zoom that fought Wonder Woman.

Just an FYI

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I can see the team getting some wins in but I don't know about over all.

IM's suit lasted against Sentry after all.

But in one on one WW beats them.


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Let's see Abom do that.

Let's see Abom learn how to fly.


You severely underestimate her speed. Namor won't touch her.

Why not? Black Canary has. BTW you do realize Namor has IN FIGHT reactionary feats breaking several mach don't you? The fastest reaction feat I think Wonder Woman has under her belt is being punched from Earth to the Sun in a few seconds. Lol Wonder Woman.

Wondy is closer to a class 100,000.

Namor is a low-mid CL100.


Class 100,000 = Class 100

If you want to use feats, Class 100,000 would put Wonder Woman on the lower end of Class 100, actually. So by your own admission Namor > Wonder Woman.


This probably isn't canon per Zero Hour and IC, but check it out.

Even under one of her weakest depictions in the post crisis era, Diana is able to fight and get the eventual better of a Daxamite warrior.Who are said to be as strong as Superman or the Martian Manhunter. (Wonder Woman #71)
1.http://img102.echo.cx/my.php?image=ww7118eg.jpg
2.http://img102.echo.cx/my.php?image=ww7123al.jpg
3.http://img102.echo.cx/my.php?image=ww7131oz.jpg
4.http://img252.echo.cx/my.php?image=ww7146ol.jpg
5.http://img252.echo.cx/my.php?image=ww7154rh.jpg
6.http://img248.echo.cx/my.php?image=ww7166zf.jpg


Oh look, a moral victory where Wonder Woman is sweating her ass off while the Daxam shows zero signs of fatigue and is said to have let her win after dominating her and easily over powering her several times in the match.

How very impressive, I DOUBT Namor could do the same. roll eyes (sarcastic)


Now you're just ignoring evidence. she is much much tougher than you believe.

So Wonder Woman is that much tougher then Namor that Superman has to exert effort to kill her while being able to splatter him with a punch?

BTW you continue to dodge the question

Wonder Woman = 100
Namor = ???

PS: How fast you are doesn't really matter to Zoom, at least the Zoom that fought Wonder Woman.

Just an FYI



"Why not? Black Canary has. BTW you do realize Namor has IN FIGHT reactionary feats breaking several mach don't you? The fastest reaction feat I think Wonder Woman has under her belt is being punched from Earth to the Sun in a few seconds. Lol Wonder Woman."

The sacrifice fight on-panel has her and Superman going around the planets in minutes. Mach speed my ass. Not to mention she was keeping up with Jesse Quick, a flash level speedster, AND she hit the speedforce barrier under her own power.


"If Superman decides to fight Namor in the water, then Namor has a shot to win 2-4 out of 10.

No matter where Superman decides to fight Wonder Woman she's going to lose.

Wouldn't matter anyway. Supes would rip him a new one. And let's not even discuss Zoom.

I agree, they'd put a similar beat down on him as they do with Wondie."

Completely idiotic. Even if Superman let himself be dragged underwater, it would only take one punch to annihilate Namor. And the underwater advantage is laughable, considering Superman could just turn on the old HV and evaporate most of the ocean.

And I love how you seem to ignore that Namor is completely outclassed by these guys. And yet Wondy actually has held her own. So what if she loses to them? She actually has taken their punches and lived, something Namor can't hope to do.

"If you want to use feats, Class 100,000 would put Wonder Woman on the lower end of Class 100, actually. So by your own admission Namor > Wonder Woman." Facetious. You're dodging the question. The class 100 system does not work for DC characters. And Wondy's feat put her way above Namor. and that moon feat? It was stated that Martian, Supes and Wondy all moved equally. They were moving the moon against Earth's gravity while trying not to cause global damage by messing with the tides.


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So Wonder Woman is that much tougher then Namor that Superman has to exert effort to kill her while being able to splatter him with a punch?

BTW you continue to dodge the question

Wonder Woman = 100
Namor = ???

PS: How fast you are doesn't really matter to Zoom, at least the Zoom that fought Wonder Woman."

Yes, she is. Namor doesn't take punches from guys like Supes. He dies from them. Wondy stalemated Captain Marvel during the war of the gods.

Your question is BS. But alright. Namor would be a 20 or maybe 40 compared to her.

I'm aware of Zoom's capabilities. But Wondy said he hits as hard as Superman, and it didn't kill her. Just hurt her and stunned her abit. Which is far more punishment than Namor can dish out. So how is that a low showing?

I haven't started on her weaponry, her ability to heal all wounds by joining with the earth, her animal empathy, her insane skill levels.

To paraphrase Hulk: "'Stupid fishman' is outclassed."


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How did WW hit the speedforce barrier, only people connected to the speedforce can do it.


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How did WW hit the speedforce barrier, only people connected to the speedforce can do it.


Only people connected can break the barrier. You just have to be rediculously fast to get to it. For the record, Jesse and Christina are flash level speedsters.


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Well Jesse has to use the speed formula right, and Flash doesn't.


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True. But she can keep with him using it. Not saying she'd win, but god damn, she's fast enough to hit the Speed Force, and Wondy kept up with her.


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