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Ditto. The main roster sux! Half of the 2 xtras suck. I expect the DC to suck as well just to keep things consistent.


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No. Just saying his slot could have been used for a way better character. SNK has plenty. How the fvck is rehash there, but K' ain't? That's flat out bullshit!!!!

in the interview they said that they want to take koF back to it's roots: ff and aof.
although i do agree about k'. k' one of the best creations of SNK (minus the name).

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Not funny cause it simply doesn't apply. Now if I dropped rehash's name for no good reason in threads he doesn't belong in (like say a Terry/Cody thread), then you'd have some real material to work with

okay, get the AoF/FF bitchfest cock outta your mouth eek!

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I doubt even Kyo can make up for this game's sorryass roster. It almost has a "rushed" feel to it
They pretty much drew er character from scratch, that takes time, yo. I think this is just a starter game, the next one will be better if this one does any good. Doubt it though, SFIV really killed the whole 2d FG market in America this year.

To be honest, the roster does kinda suck though. I'm cool wit the number of characters, I just wish they coulda replaced some of the old guys no body cares about. Almost erbody in this game has been in EVERY KOF, kinda tired of seein'em. Rock and K' woulda been the shit.


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Ditto


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in the interview they said that they want to take koF back to it's roots: ff and aof.
although i do agree about k'. k' one of the best creations of SNK (minus the name).


okay, get the AoF/FF bitchfest cock outta your mouth eek!
no expression Still lousy material 'cuz I keeps the bit<hin' in the proper threads. Do better, mane.

I'd like to see this interview. &that's still no excuse 'cuz Kyo, Iori, the 2 xtra bit<hes, Athena etc etc etc ain't from AOF or FF. King and Blue Mary are from AOF &FF. Neither one of them is in this game. This roster is shitty. No way around that.


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To be honest, the roster does kinda suck though. I'm cool wit the number of characters, I just wish they coulda replaced some of the old guys no body cares about. Almost erbody in this game has been in EVERY KOF, kinda tired of seein'em. Rock and K' woulda been the shit.

Who are the older guys no one cares about? The classics are universally loved by the large majority of the gaming fanbase, and making a KOF without some of them is out of question.

If they did that, the bitching and nagging about the roster would get increase by a tenfold. The roster, save one individual or two is just fine. Sure, it could use more faces, but thats another story.

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IMO rehash is one of those guys no one cares about. He wasn't in the KOF:MI anime & no one gave a damn. The anime was pretty dam good w/out him. W/Robert here, they had the perfect chance to let someone else fill rehash's slot. Played it today in the arcade. Graphics looked very good but that's about it. Raiden looks pretty cool. They really should've had more people in this game. They RUINED Iori. I'd rather him not be there than be like this.


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You probably missed the spot where it showed that the story would continue in the game itself. Ryo only shows up in the story later, and we had two versions of the guy big grin

Its you who doesnt give a damn. Wich is fair enough, i dont give a damn about K` or Iori, and it looks i wont be playing either of them, for different reasons. I have to check out if there is a SNKP spy around my office. Christmas is way too far.

As far as the gameplay, it looks good, get out of here. The new counter system is what the fanbase need. No more button mashing for cheapers.

Tactical gaming, people. Thats the real deal.

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Who are the older guys no one cares about?


* Benimaru Nikaido
* Goro Daimon
* Athena Asamiya
* Sie Kensou
* Chin Gentsai
* Terry Bogard
* Andy Bogard
* Joe Higashi
* Ryo Sakazaki
* Ralf Jones
* Clark Still

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The classics are universally loved by the large majority of the gaming fanbase, and making a KOF without some of them is out of question.
I don't believe that and even so, they could have at the very least made some new characters if they were gonna keep the same nearly 20 somthin' guys that are there EVERY year.

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If they did that, the bitching and nagging about the roster would get increase by a tenfold. The roster, save one individual or two is just fine. Sure, it could use more faces, but thats another story.
I think the smaller roster is a good thing, so many faces on the screen at once and so many stories really make the characters unapealin' and makes it seem like a game wit a bunch of Shojo anime characters. The smaller roster brings more focus on to the main heroes and villains.

They kinda played it a lil too safe, imo. The graphics are hot but it's really lackin' in the substance department. Give me a good game over a pretty game anyday.


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Take Terry off of that list & I'd agree 100%. I don't like it, but Terry's got a lot of fans & I don't wanna see what would happen if they made a KOF w/out him. Some of those guys like to "RETALIATE" laughing out loud I'd prefer KOF to have a large roster over a small shitty one anyday
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Its you who doesnt give a damn.
Nah seriously. He wasn't in the anime & everybody still loved it. Everything points to him being one of SNKs least important heroes. In the manga for it he was lucky enough to be there, but he got his @ss beat by Mignon Bert. All the other heroes got to shine a bit.
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Wich is fair enough, i dont give a damn about K` or Iori, and it looks i wont be playing either of them, for different reasons. I have to check out if there is a SNKP spy around my office. Christmas is way too far.
You don't like K', but you like rehash?! I thought K' was one of them cats everybody liked. Now that I think of it, I think I do remember you dissing K' back in the day. You wanted them to put Iori in the "blue mary suit"?


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terry - robert - kim is the only reason I'm going to play this game.. I'm also happy that andy players got to see him be useful for a change (outside of the realbout series)

terry happens to be my favorite character in fatal fury and kof.. but the problem is that the only drastic change he's had was in 96 and garou respectively... other than that they dont really try anything new with him.. like giving his rising tackle start up immunity (from fatal fury 2), or his crack shot the ability to jump over certain projectiles (like kyo's yami-burai(sp?), or in a mirror match, his own power wave)

I mean I wouldnt want him to be retarded overpowered.. but something interesting and fun would really make me want to get good with him..

random side notes : things I'd also like to see are the return of the geki hishouken , and roberts 96/97 ryugeki-ken.. and the ability to use andy's choureppa-dan from the air (cuz it looked so damn awesome in the fatal fury movie)


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I'd prefer KOF to have a large roster over a small shitty one anydayNah seriously


Not going to happen. Its a deeper and different style of gameplay with new drawn out HQ sprites and animation for each character.

Lets get real here. Its time they update the whole thing instead of re-using sprites from 99.

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He wasn't in the anime & everybody still loved it


It was the first and only KOF anime to date. Any character there, and most would still like it. Ryo didnt needed to be there. The whole thing was merely four little episodes whose porpuse was to be released with the game as a DVD bonus, exactly because the game was to be the follow-up.

The story continues in the game, and there is more than enough Ryo there stealing the show as it is. From the opening to characters.

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Everything points to him being one of SNKs least important heroes.


You point out.

SNK points out something else.

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In the manga for it he was lucky enough to be there, but he got his @ss beat by Mignon Bert.


And?

Iori got his ass handled to him by Genjuro in another. And in more than one KOF Manga, Ryo has done the same to Terry.

Heck, he was cleaning house in the 96 Manga, even against Iori.

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All the other heroes got to shine a bit.


Every character wins and loses in the Mangas. No exceptions.

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You don't like K', but you like rehash?! I thought K' was one of them cats everybody liked. Now that I think of it, I think I do remember you dissing K' back in the day. You wanted them to put Iori in the "blue mary suit"?


I dont like K`because i dont have to. He doesnt do anything for me, simple as that. Ryo got a better story, cooler moveset and personality. They can give Iori any suit too, and i will still only play him rarely, if ever.

I like figthers who look like figthers. Thats the main reason why i prefer VF to Tekken.

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Not going to happen. Its a deeper and different style of gameplay with new drawn out HQ sprites and animation for each character.
[QUOTE=11889220]Originally posted by olympian
[B]Lets get real here. Its time they update the whole thing instead of re-using sprites from 99.
These new sprites are extremely impressive(not Iori's or Ash's), but I think they could have used that art on better characters for the most part
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It was the first and only KOF anime to date. Any character there, and most would still like it. Ryo didnt needed to be there. The whole thing was merely four little episodes whose porpuse was to be released with the game as a DVD bonus, exactly because the game was to be the follow-up. The story continues in the game, and there is more than enough Ryo there stealing the show as it is. From the opening to characters.
He was in the U.S. commercial too. Hasn't the MI series been scrapped? Terry honestly stole the show. He went on to fight Duke w/Alba. rehash didn't reach the finals again(as always). I'm not sure how it was continued in the game tho. Ash wasn't even there but he was in the movie. This came out w/MI 1 or 2?
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Iori got his ass handled to him by Genjuro in another.
Iori got killed an awesome fight. In that same manga Genjuro merely dodged rehash's attacks w/out fighting back. When rehash asked him why, he told rehash he was not only unworthy of killing, but unworthy of even drawing a sword for(he still eventually slit his throat just cuz he could). He had ZERO respect for rehash. Genjuro>>>>>Mignon Bert & she wasn't even taking rehash seriously. She literally giggled and played as she beat the livin' shit outta Mr. Karate rehash. That's humiliation. It was NOT an awesome match. It was just her outclassing him and beating his @ss w/out even trying(which made the result awesome big grin ).
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And in more than one KOF Manga, Ryo has done the same to Terry. Heck, he was cleaning house in the 96 Manga, even against Iori.
SNK used to think he could be as popular as Terry, Kyo, or even Iori back in the day. That was over ten years ago though. Nowadays Iori beats Alex damn near to death whereas Ryu's Super fireball one shots rehash's super fireball, keeps going &does the same rehash in the same manga. &That was after Ryu called him a "thief" & an embarrassment to the style. Iori's shown as a beast nowadays whereas rehash is "not even worth drawing a sword for!!!" and an embarrassment that gets absolutely manhandled by little girls dressed like cats.
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Every character wins and loses in the Mangas. No exceptions.
Not as badly as rehash has been as of late. Nowhere near. I'd like to see this one w/rehash beating Iori tho. Any links?
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I dont like K`because i dont have to.
You don't HAVE to like anybody. Weird answer.
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He doesnt do anything for me, simple as that. Ryo got a better story, cooler moveset and personality.
rehash cooler than K'? laughing That's a 1st. Everyone's got an opinion tho.
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They can give Iori any suit too, and i will still only play him rarely, if ever.
Shit! You actually win, cuz no matter what they do to rehash, they never dressed him up like a homo. mad I won't be playing as him either. His new moves don't compare to his old ones from what I've seen.
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I like figthers who look like figthers. Thats the main reason why i prefer VF to Tekken.
I don't see where VF people look more like fighters than the Tekken cast, but that's for another thread or a PM that I'll send. I'm quite interested in the reasoning behind that statement.


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Some of those guys like to "RETALIATE"

phuck you

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laughing out loud


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These new sprites are extremely impressive(not Iori's or Ash's), but I think they could have used that art on better characters for the most part

The chosen roster got the characters that most players of the franchise usually want.

No one is saying there arent odd choices but on the whole they got it right for the new gen. Other characters are supposed to be getting the same treatment in the follwoing KOF, anyway.

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Hasn't the MI series been scrapped?


Not as far as i know. Its still in the works, but without Falcoon now.

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Terry honestly stole the show. He went on to fight Duke w/Alba.


Im talking about the second.

This is where our arguments differ: im well aware that Ryo doesnt always steal the show and always win, and neither he should, whereas you act like a troll who belives his favourite never lost in his life.

That act is getting stale.

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rehash didn't reach the finals again(as always)


And yet hes got more tournments championships on his belt, than Iori does. How fun is that?

Maybe if Iori gave up on his closet infatuation over Kyo, he would be more focused. Like a figther is supposed to be.

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I'm not sure how it was continued in the game tho. Ash wasn't even there but he was in the movie.


Some KOF XI characters were there yeah. I dont ask you to understand the logic behind it, but its how it was marketed by SNKP. Or supposed to, before they screwed up the whole original release. You can google the whole affair.

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his came out w/MI 1 or 2?

Two, as far as i know.

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Iori got killed an awesome fight. In that same manga Genjuro merely dodged rehash's attacks w/out fighting back. When rehash asked him why, he told rehash he was not only unworthy of killing, but unworthy of even drawing a sword for(he still eventually slit his throat just cuz he could). He had ZERO respect for rehash. Genjuro>>>>>Mignon Bert & she wasn't even taking rehash seriously. She literally giggled and played as she beat the livin' shit outta Mr. Karate rehash. That's humiliation. It was NOT an awesome match. It was just her outclassing him and beating his @ss w/out even trying(which made the result awesome big grin ).SNK used to think he could be as popular as Terry, Kyo, or even Iori back in the day. That was over ten years ago though. Nowadays Iori beats Alex damn near to death whereas Ryu's Super fireball one shots rehash's super fireball, keeps going &does the same rehash in the same manga. &That was after Ryu called him a "thief" & an embarrassment to the style. Iori's shown as a beast nowadays whereas rehash is "not even worth drawing a sword for!!!" and an embarrassment that gets absolutely manhandled by little girls dressed like cats.Not as badly as rehash has been as of late. Nowhere near.

Holy hell. This looks like the most nonsentical paragraph killing venom spilling bullshit against a fictional character i encountered in the internetz this week.

This reads as " my dad was better because at least he didnt lost against a Catwoman stealing burgler".

Get my grief? Its like saying "my shit smells better than yours!"

Yeah, Brain. But its still shit.

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'd like to see this one w/rehash beating Iori tho. Any links?


http://www.foroz.org/foroz/topic50783.html

And dont forget to pick only the worse parts about Ryo to make a case for the whole Manga. And likewise only the best parts for Iori.

You wouldnt be you if you didnt do it *high five mano*

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You don't HAVE to like anybody. Weird answer.

Then why the surprise at me not caring about K`?

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Shit! You actually win, cuz no matter what they do to rehash, they never dressed him up like a homo. :mad

You got that right.

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I don't see where VF people look more like fighters than the Tekken cast, but that's for another thread or a PM that I'll send. I'm quite interested in the reasoning behind that statement.


Its not a novelty concept. I just prefer one game over the other in nearly every basis. Characters and styles included.

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* Benimaru Nikaido
* Goro Daimon
* Athena Asamiya
* Sie Kensou
* Chin Gentsai
* Terry Bogard
* Andy Bogard
* Joe Higashi
* Ryo Sakazaki
* Ralf Jones
* Clark Still

I don't believe that and even so, they could have at the very least made some new characters if they were gonna keep the same nearly 20 somthin' guys that are there EVERY year


You dont have to belive. March on every main SNK related forum and ask the question. Cyberfanatix, Neo Geo.com, Oroginachi, SNK.dot.com, you name it.

The majority will want new characters but not at the expense of taking most of these guys out, its absurd. Not in a KOF title.

Secondly, its too much to expect more characters than this number, due to the work it takes in every character. These new animations took a team and months for any of them. Lets be objective here. Either you want reused stuff or you dont. Doing HQ hand drawn animation takes time and more work.

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* They kinda played it a lil too safe, imo. The graphics are hot but it's really lackin' in the substance department. Give me a good game over a pretty game anyday.


You have three new characters (two of them, main assets) in the game from KOF XI, you have the old classics, and you have Iori and Kyo, the main event of the old-new generation.

Who is missing? Bosses? We dont know if they are in or out yet.

With a limited roster, each characters plays differently, and the gameplay is, since some time, harder and deeper. And i personally find that welcome.

Altho i love most KOF, i havent found one to be truly technically engaging since a long time.

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This is where our arguments differ: im well aware that Ryo doesnt always steal the show and always win, and neither he should, whereas you act like a troll who belives his favourite never lost in his life.

That act is getting stale.
That act doesn't exist. What are you talking about? You seem to be getting emotional. I haven't hurled any negativity your way. What gives? All this over rehash? confused
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And yet hes got more tournments championships on his belt, than Iori does. How fun is that?
Awesome. It's amazing the stuff rehash can do when Iori ain't around. When Iori, Kyo, Terry, anybody of importance ain't around, rehash be doin' it big!!! He's the man!!!!
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Maybe if Iori gave up on his closet infatuation over Kyo, he would be more focused. Like a figther is supposed to be.
laughing out loud Dammit SNK! Back in the day I'd have a snappy comeback. Now I can't even say "Iori's not gay!!!!!". You win again Oly. Well played, altho rehash's not infatuated over Kyo & he still doesn't ever seem to get to the finals in KOF. The unfocused Iori seems to go farther than him in the tourney quite often. Sometimes even by himself IIRC. Focus can only carry rehash so far I guess.
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Some KOF XI characters were there yeah. I dont ask you to understand the logic behind it, but its how it was marketed by SNKP. Or supposed to, before they screwed up the whole original release. You can google the whole affair.
Ok.
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Two, as far as i know.
Ok. Googling it now
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Holy hell. This looks like the most nonsentical paragraph killing venom spilling bullshit against a fictional character i encountered in the internetz this week.

This reads as " my dad was better because at least he didnt lost against a Catwoman stealing burgler".

Get my grief?
Nope. You brought Iori into this manga stuff for some reason. I merely pointed out to you that Iori didn't really get his ass handed to him. He lost, but he got his shots in. Genjuro diced him up & enjoyed it 'cuz Iori's a tuff dude. ('Juro explained that he offed Iori's ancestors back in the samurai days). In that same manga that you brought up Genjuro also took on rehash. 'Juro did NOT enjoy it 'cuz rehash ain't shit to him. rehash basically got his ass handed to him by a guy who didn't wanna hand him his ass. That's all I'm saying. Nothing to get upset over. It's just the truth. Lighten up.
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http://www.foroz.org/foroz/topic50783.html

And dont forget to pick only the worse parts about Ryo to make a case for the whole Manga. And likewise only the best parts for Iori.

You wouldnt be you if you didnt do it *high five mano*
laughing out loud That's not fair. I gave you the real deal on those fights. Didn't skew things one way or the other. Genjuro seemed to respect Iori's bad@ssness. Whereas he seemed to respect rehash even less than I do. Didn't think that was possible. He told him he was so lowly he wasn't even worth drawing a sword for. That's pretty fuked up, mane
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Then why the surprise at me not caring about K`?
Just haven't encounted too many peeps who don't. Doesn't mean I think you have to like him.
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You got that right.
sad Damn SNK!!!!
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Its not a novelty concept. I just prefer one game over the other in nearly every basis. Characters and styles included.
You prefering one game over the other is obviously not what I was talking about. I doubt I could have been more clear. You said one game's roster looks more like fighters. That's the novelty of interest.



This game is pretty as all hell, but it's lame IMO. I hope they get it right next time. NGBC was a much better effort from SNK


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Old Post May 26th, 2009 06:01 AM
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That act doesn't exist. What are you talking about? You seem to be getting emotional. I haven't hurled any negativity your way. What gives? All this over rehash? confused


*laughs*

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Awesome. It's amazing the stuff rehash can do when Iori ain't around. When Iori, Kyo, Terry, anybody of importance ain't around, rehash be doin' it big!!! He's the man!!!!


Mr Karate, Big, Robert, Wilder and Geese say "hi".

Thats not to say im happy about Iori`s poor record. I know what the guy needs. He needs the Bad Boys commander tactical course:

"what was subtle about your work today? How many times did i told you to go after the prize instead of the schoolboy?!"

Focus, Focus!"

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laughing out loud Dammit SNK! Back in the day I'd have a snappy comeback. Now I can't even say "Iori's not gay!!!!!". You win again Oly. Well played, altho rehash's not infatuated over Kyo & he still doesn't ever seem to get to the finals in KOF.


*laughs*

"hes gay but..but...ill say something!"

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The unfocused Iori seems to go farther than him in the tourney quite often. Sometimes even by himself IIRC. Focus can only carry rehash so far I guess.


You mean Orochi Iori does by himself wink

Ryo`s team have reached mid finals, and either in 2002 or 03 they must have done something, because according to theyr story they got the money back that Robert lost. The same money that made them enter the Tournment in the first place.

See? Thats the shit im talking about, Brain. Maybe they stole it, but check out how it proves theyr focus in on the prize, and not the fellow black leather.

Thats figthers, mane.

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That's not fair. I gave you the real deal on those fights. Didn't skew things one way or the other.


Well, not quite. You "forgot" to mention along that Orochi Iori was also walking around the same time than normal Io was.

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Just haven't encounted too many peeps who don't. Doesn't mean I think you have to like him. sad Damn SNK!!!! You prefering one game over the other is obviously not what I was talking about. I doubt I could have been more clear. You said one game's roster looks more like fighters. That's the novelty of interest.


Lee`s fishnet t-shirt.

That is all.

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This game is pretty as all hell, but it's lame IMO. I hope they get it right next time. NGBC was a much better effort from SNK


It was, but NGBC isent a KOF game. Its an All Stars SNK figther. Much more diverse characters to use.

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Old Post May 31st, 2009 09:47 AM
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good ol' I-drop's got a new comeback: wipe your own tears and call the other guy emo laughing out loud
j/k big grin

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