true...and I agree with you that a bullet would not be able to go through logan's eyesocket
my point is that its not the best argument to say that because a comic feat is inconsistent with real world knowledge of human anatomy then it must be discounted
on the other hand, your point that logan has been shot in the eye before but not damaged in the brain IS a legitimate point against Carver's argument
I mean, I always say its BS that Logan's skeleton doesnt fall apart when he's burned to the bone...but you and Battlehammer have debated that its always been that way, and I've come to accept your conclusion...despite the fact that it would not make sense if we considered real anatomy
So have you proven that its the majority...no you have not.
...and you keep giving me examples, I'll give you other examples. Prior to Wolverine vol 3 issue 1 I think he got Koed by a normal person. I'll have to check the issue but I think thats what happened.
Ok im going to list the examples ive got without the bullet going into the brain via the eye.
1. Punisher shooting Wolverine in the leg. NON EINNIS.
2. Bushwacker shooting Wolverine and him having to duck under a truck.
3. Wolverine getting gunned down by two people in Wolverine issue 1 vol 3.
4. Wolverine getting his nuts blown off in New Avengers.
5. Wolverine getting gunned down in the desert. The fact that he got gunned down in the desert is neither here nor there he would have still dropped anyway because hes been gunned down by two people in the cool city envinronment
6. Deadpool shooting him in the chin with a shotgun.
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Technically I have actually. Most anti-feats you've posted are littered with circumstantial evidence. I posted multiples of evidence without circumstances to which Logan has taken far far far worse than bullets and been fine.
I don't know what you want me to do, post up half of his comic book career? Because I would have to do that to show you the sheer overwhelming number of times he's shrugged them off like nothing.
God I hope you're not talking about Mr. X... see this is what I'm talking about... you need to read them comics son.
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True.. if there were no counter evidence to the eyesocket point I would concede but as it stands....
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
"You just don't get it", eventually you will run out of examples... I will not.. Hence MAJORITY VS MINORITY
An example that a top tier fighter/telepath can take Logan down if he can read Logan's mind after Logan's fought his own personalized army and bodyguards which was an extensive fight that proves right there that Wolverine doesn't go down to bullets.
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I doubt it because one of your arguments is that he taken class 100 shots therefore he cant get taken down by bullets. That means everything else less than class 100 is PIS do you know how many other examples that is???
Issue number pleas. ...I think you have your facts wrong. It was Wolverine 168, he didnt get gunned down by anybody. The point is that Mr X doesnt hit as hard as the Hulk but had the ability to kill him.
Last edited by Deadline on Apr 13th, 2008 at 07:28 PM
Which you know is just as plausible as an eye shot.
Also I'm going to use this against the other ww2 flashback scan. Cause I'd love to hear how bullets do more damage than this:
Plus in order to gain the majority you're going to have to prove that things like punches from the hulk would do less damage than a bullet would. And all the times he's been stabbed.
Proves nothing more than Punisher shot Wolverine in the leg. Wolverine was not down or out and even took a point blank shotgun blast to the torso with no apparant damage by the very next panel.... bad example that helps my argument and hurts yours.
Besides this, it's before Fatal Attractions hence highly irrelivent.
Proves nothing more than Logan manevuring around getting shot. His ducking under the truck played into his strategy of getting on top of it from the other side and trying to light Bushwhacker aflame. At no point does Wolverine give any indication that he's at or near his limit for damage. The only one worried about Wolverine is Daredevil.
Besides this, it's before Fatal Attractions hence highly irrelivent.
A low showing but suitable example. So... you've got 1.
Proves nothing more than that Wolverine can take being shot repeatidly in the groin and still fight a superhuman demon entity (who ended up hightailing it the hell out of there to get away from Logan) without so much as even a whimper about it.
That REALLY doesn't help your argument not only because it discredits this idea that Bullets> Wolverine but also because it discredits your notion that Wolverine's senses are worthless seeing how he pinned down and fought the Red Hood while Hood was trying to stay invisible.
You're kinda doing my work for me right now.
So... one circumstantial showing is proven to be true free from circumstances because of one low showing?
Actually Wolverine being gunned down in the desert is attributed to the effects of the desert not the bullets. It's stated in black and white so it is here AND there irrelivent to an argument revolving around a battle that takes place in a warehouse/urban environment.
Also does not help your argument for pro bullets since Wolverine took so much damage from so many more weapons before DP ever got to that point. All that proves is that Wolverine can take explosions, getting run over, blades, bullets, and blunt impact before being shot in the brain effects him.. which hey I thought you said that you weren't referring to the bullet in the brain scenarioooo oh ohhhhhh I get it, you only think DP shot him in the chip and that doesn't necessarily reflect that his brain was affected.. Inspite of where the blood came out of Wolverine.... and... it wasn't a shotgun.... my god man don't you even read the comic scans they provide on this site for people like you?
Anyways.. out of 1-6 you've posted 1 relivent example to your cause... good job....
And....
3 examples that straight up contradict and invalidate your suitable one... ohhhh so close...ish... okay not really.
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
That's one of my arguments? Really... quote please?
Anyways, you can doubt it, but my lying eyes have seen Wolverine take lots more punishment than a few bullets can dish out which is why I recognize a low showing for the character when I see one.
Don't know it off the top of my head.
Wolverine fought off an army and assassins early-ish in the evening in a battle that lasted from Mr. X's drive around town, dinner, and training session, to another drive and their battle was set for later in the evening... Wolverine was stated to be taking flame throwers bullets and explosions and just kept coming.. It wasn't all X that did it.
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
Bullets are really going to work with a score of -5 for the bullets... plus we'll throw on another -1 from the incident with the adamantium tipped bullets that destroyed Wolverine's bike in the early issues of X-Men Vol 2...
-6.... Not to mention all the times he's taken way more damage than a bullet could make... Good heavens its like these people have never read a wolverine comic... Oh wait that's right... Phantom Zone is another person who argues against shit he knows nothing about. Like his Punisher vs the DCU where he admits he doesn't read DC...
That its not a suitible example because it didn't put him down. Duh.
What you think that ducking around something is a loss? Boy Punisher sure lost the fight in the ennis book just before he nailed Wolverine in the nuts.
Which is why he threated to cut red Hood's nuts off to see if they'd grow back?
"Mine will grow back, lets see if yours will"
Right... you got a screwed up notion of what "being down" is... but that's no surprise mr "Hulk should give off shockwaves simply from moving".
After all the other punishment he'd taken?
And it was the bullet that did all the damage to him and not the fight with deadpool right?
Why is that fanboy? Huh? Why is that?
He goes up against bricks frequently.
It's like saying that anyone slower than superman tagging him is Pis..
Oh shoot that's right, that's exactly what the rules state.
I'm talking about the rest of the fight with Deadpool...
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