But the key in your statement was "Thor needed to take him away" is the impressive thing. Not many people can pull Namor out of the water. Only Thing and Thor have done it that I am aware of.
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Seeing as he is stronger then Namor and can fly...
War Machine did it too. Captain Marvel did it too, although not with strength....
I think the Thing example was retconned, in the most recent re-telling of that fight he simply punched him out of water (Marvel Age Fantastic Four #9, 2005)...
Maybe not with full force but it still cut through a building without any PROBLEMS
I'm not saying it's not possible seeing that he has magic backing him up but when has Thor thrown Mjolnir past the speed of light. Now I know, he can open spacegates to travel to different planets.
Huh...why does she need molecular control over air?
Besides we already know she has enough control over air to do this
Yes...because it is an indestrucable hammer thrown by a god...
Superstrong characters can punch through buildings...their fists usually move with normal human speeds.
"Thor could throw the hammer at the speed of light. See Thor#140, Thor#274; and, or can swing the hammer at TWICE the speed of light- Journey Into Mystery#102."
"In Thor -#393- it's established that the speed of Thor's hammer TRANSCENDS both TIME & SPACE."
Because in order to control air itself, which is consisted of mixture of gases, she would need to have some sort of control over the molecules that consist them.
In order to control wind, she would need to have atmokinesis, which she has.
She has enough control over the winds to do that. I admit that she has fine control.
Unless she is naked in that picture...? Do you have the full page?
Might be. Still does not show that Storm could react to Namor. Thor obviously was not moving with faster then human speeds, because Storm saw her and his hammer...
Which also show him using more then enough force to easily kill Storm with one attack.
IIRC, Thor's reflexes has very little to do with the speed at which Mjolnir is thrown. Its the strength behind the hammer that is propelling it at super-speeds.(Now keep in mind that I haven't taken a Physics class in almost a decade. So if anyone wants to correct me, please go a head.)
Think pitchers on a baseball team, who can throw a baseball over 90mph.
Seeing that Marvel tries to stay within the realms of true science (LOL), I'm guessing that he did this feats while in outer space.
There a good chance that she does on some level or another.
Okay
I really think your over thinking this subject. So how about we agree to disagree?
I mean, I like Storm and all, she's one of my favorite X-Men, but creating clothes...out of lightning...? Lightning is electrostatic discharge, I am not sure how you can create clothes out of it...
To tell you the truth, I was shocked too. We already knew that Storm could re-polarize unstable molecules into any form. Now I guess where to assume that she has grown so great with her abilities that she can do it with regaler molecules.
We are talking bloodlust are we? If we are talking about it, then Storm generating deep freezing the whole world isn't a problem. It is a fact she has total dominance over the weather in Earth, and that my friend isn't too hard for her to do.
But her weather-related phenomenas production are amazingly fast, even barely a thought. Storm can technically reach the speed of 500+mph or was it 700mph, I'm not sure, but I think it was near Mach1. She can do that speed, but she can't last on it too long because it would drain her, but the duration for her to remain at this speed is still unknown.
And the lightning bolts Storm normally produces are just the typical ones, she rarely to the nth time uses the full power of lightning bolts which has temperatures 3x hotter than the sun. A raging tempest of full power lightning could weaken Namor somehow.
Storm has fantastic control over her lightning bolts. She can redirect them anywhere she chooses. Once it is released without striking, she can redirect them. She can also create balls of lightning and can even separate elements of lightning to boil water without breaking the bucket.
She has fine air control. Nothing molecular, but she has great skill of controlling it.
Until now. If you think ocean currents are part of weather patterns, then let us say you're right. But then it's not, so NO. Storm doesn't just control weather patterns on earth.
Same thing I can say to F4 writers.
If anything's worth, then Namor wins this fight because he is durable. Still, I'm adamant with his speed because for me, he is NOT THAT FAST, it's just a lame excuse for an instant win, which will only occur once in a blue moon.
Saying Namor can win this easily? Nah. Storm has too much arsenal on her hands. She's smart too. She can create instant weather covers to conceal herself, and slowly attacks Namor. She can generate a lot of things to take him out of the water for respectable times and all. Still, since Storm has never shown durability, she still loses if Namor may be able to get near her, but as long as Storm is far away from him, I don't think he'll be fighting her with a smile on his face.
Hell Storm can just fight naked, that would distract him a lot. Lol. Damn, I'd wish she married Namor, next to Doom of course and not BP. *sigh* Namor's hot.
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RisingStorm, I honestly didn't read all that, but I realized that it's what the other Storm supporters have said many times before.
However...
Namor wins. He's too fast. Too strong. Too durable. Too quick. Etc.
P.S.--And no, Storm cannot redirect a lightning bolt that's already been shot. She would need the reflexes of the Flash in order to do so. She just fires multiple bolts at once, changing the direction of where the next ones will land, instead of having them all land in the same spot.
Jason says:
what am I supposed to do?
Jon says:
clean your apt before she moves in? buy some pink bed sheets? scented candles?
Jason says:
wait, u have pink bed sheets?
Jon says:
ive said too much
I wasn't aware that you could fly 100,000 feet in seconds at 60 MPH, or fly to the outer reaches of space in seconds at 60 MPH, or fly between continents in hours at 60 MPH or reach fighters with miles of headstart in 60 MPH, or outfly people with speed faster then 60 MPH at 60 MPH.
And things Namor would throw are not going to fly at 60 MPH either, don't know where you got that.
Oh, and Namor can absorb and redirect electricity so that wouldn't help Storm at all, in fact it would just give him more power.
But of course you didn't know it. There is a very small amount of things you actually know.
All Namor has to do is to fly at Storm at full speed. The impact alone will kill her. Won't be difficult, because he is faster, more experienced and more skilled in flight then Storm.
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