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Originally posted by Nibedicus
7a. You need to watch Phantom Menace. It was explained there. Precog is a BASIC jedi ability. Even Anakin as a child had it. This is the reason why they are able to block blaster shots and the reason why they seem so accurate/precise as pilots, etc. most can see seconds into the future and act accordingly. This is explained/shown in the movies, the books and the animation as well. Many of the Jedi in the movies realized the betrayal moments before they were shot down (their precog was too late on telling them as they were already surrounded when they found out). Basically, every time you see a jedi block a blaster shot, it is precog.

Yoda has the most powerful precog of all force users of his time. He can actually see the distant future. Were Palpatine not blocking him, he would have predicted the Clone Wars betrayal as well. You can dismiss it all you want but this is canon and supported by the movies, but your denial only proves that since you can't counter a supported argument, you conceded this part of the debate. Giving me the win.

7b. I already defeated this argument with a twofold rebuttal many posts ago. Sigh. You just added more flaws.

(1) Post clips of Dumby casting an attack spell within .3 seconds. He still needs to wave his wand which takes more than .3 seconds.
(2) We've already agreed (for fairness' sake) that Dumby can Immobulus as far as Yoda can force push. So it comes down to who can act first the second they are within range. As he cannot cast his spell while Yoda is out of range. I cannot get what is so hard to understand about that concept.
(3) And even in the tiny (less than 1%) chance that Dumby can hit him with an Immobulus first, Yoda STILL has a window to retaliate with a force push as Dumby would need to cast another spell to finish him off.

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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Nib, I'm pretty amazed you're still going here... Thumbs up

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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
1c I think we misunderstand each other. The force doesn't go in a line. It like a ball of energy that goes in the direction in which it was caused. When yoda hit sidious hit went straight for him, it didn't just go everywhere, it went for him. So I'm not saying it goes in a straight line but it doesn't just stray from it original path.

2. I was busy those days so couldn't just put in every detail that I wanted. Also you do realize that there is a thing called spell check right, and this is a thread where you use fictional names for all these things. Whenever I put protego spell check changes it to protege. So yes I know how to spell. For instance I can spell, expelliarmus, crucio, pertrificus totalus. I can spell and all of those have spell check saying it's another word for it so, my bad I can't check every little thing when I'm busy.

3. https://youtu.be/9pI8IkWa3LQ. If you are in a fight and you don't know what someone is going to do, wouldn't you prepare a defense. Dumbledore could apparate if he wants to. It's nothing stoping him. If yoda raises his hand dumbledore would build up a protego spell to block or deflect his telekinesis. And yes he can prepare a shield quick enough as seen by Kingsley who was able to make a powerful shield within the time the spell hit.

4. Ignoring. Not important since dumbledore can just block it with protego.

5. Let me show you something. https://youtu.be/qtFadZ1dooM. There is a fine line between dookus and yodas force abilities. Notice how dooku can seemlessly throw objects at yoda while yoda leaves himself open. This is due to the fact that yoda has turned all his attention to mediation and enlightnment rather than his combative powers in the force. It's not that hard to understand. If you practice something for years you will become good at it ala yoda and sidious. However, after you get in a position of power where everyone does most of your field work for you you tend to get lazy and your skills decline. This is the case with yoda as undoubtedly when he became grandmaster with no real threat meaning the sith, you take advantage and focus on the less combative side of the force thus leaving your combative powers not as strong as the used to be. You may call this speculation but it's proof. As it is seen in all yodas fights that he doesn't show just a great amount of ease with his force powers, taking time and having to buckle down and concentrate while people thought to be on his LOL such as dooku windu and sidious can let out force powers with much more ease. Also he doesn't just let out force push after force push.

6. You seriously downplay magic. Magic is his defense and offense. Magic has way more variety and could match if not out due the force in its magnitude. However it questionable about the magnitude. However variety is with magic as you can do so much with it. Dumbledore if he were at full strength would definitely give yoda such a fight he might just switch to magic. However dumbledore is limited but still has a lot of elbow room to work with. While yoda has telekenisis that can be blocked and avoided.

7. Lifting a chair and a person are not the same thing. Yes you proved a person not frozen can we all know this. However what about a frozen person. Blinking and slightly moving your head are not the same as moving a person while you are frozen. Even if he does dumbledore can just shoot a spell and end it. Well the force needs gestures as seen. You need to push in order for a force push to occur, force choke even of very skilled force weilders, except palpatine need to make a choke grip. Force lightning no matter who you are need some types of gesture. So gestures are needed. As for Harry Potter, I have come to the conclusion based on the movies that once you have become so skilled like snape mcgonagall, dumbledore you don't really need gestures unless it like something like firestorm. Snape in chamber of secrets was able to use expelliarmus on Lockhart without the movement. And dumbledore does spells all the time without words. Gestures if your wand is already up you can just shoot the spell out as seen by Harry in half blood prince. It just depends where your hand is at the time.

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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
You understand everything you say makes no sense. With that any credibility you have with me is none sense you make no sense of have zero proof to back it up. You bring in injustice when we are talking about snape. So this shows me you are an idiot. You sicken me and insult everyone's intelligence with your mere pressence. Dumbledore says you must be the one to kill me. Then he lied to voldemort face. Voldemort is someone 99% of the Harry Potter universe fear, and snape had the guts to lie and be around him and his most loyal followers on a constant basis you idiot. So get out of here with your disgraceful self.

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Originally posted by Robtard
That was an awful and barely comprehendible diatribe, boy.

But good job ranting and not proving a thing, Snape is a coward who died at the hands of an even bigger coward as seen.

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Originally posted by Robtard
That was an awful and barely comprehendible diatribe, boy.

But good job ranting and not proving a thing, Snape is a coward who died at the hands of an even bigger coward as seen.

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Originally posted by Robtard
That was an awful and barely comprehendible diatribe, boy.

But good job ranting and not proving a thing, Snape is a coward who died at the hands of an even bigger coward as seen.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Snape was truly selfless and how dare you insult the dark lord. If you want to talk about a coward let's bring up yoda. Died on some shitty planet because he was a sniveling coward.

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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Haha it's funny how you call me a boy when you are a child. Like children you just talk and prove nothing. Like with this,the transfiguration situation ,and everything else you've said. Snape has proven himself a true hero and a brave man even gaining such recognition from Harry Potter at the end of the Deathly Hallows. So what makes him a coward again, by lieing straight into voldemrot face, someone who is feared by even bellatrix lestarange, someone who has even earned the title he who must not be named. Also lieing and constantly being around death eaters such as bellatrix and also lieing to her, being a double agent, going back to hogwarts with only two death eaters to support him. Able to block Minerva mcgonagall said spells. Please tell me how snape is a coward.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Snape was truly selfless and how dare you insult the dark lord. If you want to talk about a coward let's bring up yoda. Died on some shitty planet because he was a sniveling coward.

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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Well said sir.

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Originally posted by Robtard
Clam down, boy.

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Originally posted by Robtard
More angry rants and zero proof posted, you're really upset now. But having the ability to block a spell when you're a wizard doesn't make someone who's a coward not a coward.

Behold the second greatest coward in a series filled with cowardly cowards.

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Originally posted by quanchi112



Robbie just says things like a girl. He makes stuff up and actually believes he's intelligent. It's a great trick he's played on himself.

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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Wow. You really are stupid. Angry rants possibly. Zero proof, oh no. And people say I ignore stuff. I presented plenty of proof. You however completely base everything off wishful thinking.

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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Wow. You really are stupid. Angry rants possibly. Zero proof, oh no. And people say I ignore stuff. I presented plenty of proof. You however completely base everything off wishful thinking.

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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Will you come to my aid for this dumbledore vs yoda thread. I would greatly appreciate it.

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Originally posted by Robtard
Begging for help like a coward

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Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I've actually found commentary for the sidious side that proves sidious faked defeat.