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Darth Martin
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What do you consider his standard equipment?

Guns, knives, grenades, Promethium Sword and Staff.

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I said he likly could be.

He was roughly a 10 tonner prior to 2 upgrades to his strength given to him by weapon x. He has shown to ripp through spidermans webbing easily.

Logan is has shown to be comparable speed wise to spiderman has stated sabertooth to be faster. Sabertooth also had no trouble tagging spiderman at all. So at worst his speed is spiderman level.

spiderman is about 25 tonner
Sabretooth at best is 12 tonner...although Logan seems to match him in strength (which is odd considering Sabretooth is 10x stronger than Logan)

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Guns, knives, grenades, Promethium Sword and Staff.

His staff has not been aprt of his standard equiptment for a very long time.

not if we were talkign classic deathstroke then that be correct

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spiderman is about 25 tonner
Sabretooth at best is 12 tonner...although Logan seems to match him in strength (which is odd considering Sabretooth is 10x stronger than Logan)

actaully spidermans not a 25 tonner. nor has it ever been hinted at or stated.

Logan has never matched sabertooth in strength. If sabertooth was 10x wolevrines strength he bee 20+ tonner.

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actaully spidermans not a 25 tonner. nor has it ever been hinted at or stated.

Logan has never matched sabertooth in strength. If sabertooth was 10x wolevrines strength he bee 20+ tonner.

Wolverine lifts about 800 - 1000 pounds...

that's barely half a ton

10x that = 5 tons

If you are saying 10x logan = 20 tons...you are saying logan lifts 2 tons. which is ridiculous since that means logan can lift up small cars!

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Wolverine lifts about 800 - 1000 pounds...

that's barely half a ton

10x that = 5 tons

wrong. Logan has thrown objects that wieghted 1600 pounds roughly 5 feet with one arm.

His has been made to weight several tons and the ground gave out before he did.

Logan is at least a 2 tonner.

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[B]If you are saying 10x logan = 20 tons...you are saying logan lifts 2 tons. which is ridiculous since that means logan can lift up small cars!

yes I am saying Logan is a 2 tonner which has been shown through hsi feats which I have provided on many occassions.

I gone over this before many a time. Why do you always otta bring up old debates which have been done and proven.

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4000 pounds would be some pretty heavy cars actually.

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4000 pounds would be some pretty heavy cars actually.

ya lol.

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battlehammer, it has NOT BEEN PROVEN that logan is a 2 tonner. I believe you're the ONLY ONE who thinks that.

also, I hope you understand that some artists abuse their artistic license and exaggerate Logan's strength...but he is no where near a 2 tonner.

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I said he likly could be.

He was roughly a 10 tonner prior to 2 upgrades to his strength given to him by weapon x. He has shown to ripp through spidermans webbing easily.

Logan is has shown to be comparable speed wise to spiderman has stated sabertooth to be faster. Sabertooth also had no trouble tagging spiderman at all. So at worst his speed is spiderman level.

Logan ripped Spiderman's webs pretty easily once too.

Spiderman gets tagged by people he is faster than a lot of times.

I mean do you have any scans of Sabertooth displaying the things you are saying he is capable of.

And after the Other Spiderman was about Class 20. (Which has been retconned sad

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battlehammer, it has NOT BEEN PROVEN that logan is a 2 tonner. I believe you're the ONLY ONE who thinks that.

also, I hope you understand that some artists abuse their artistic license and exaggerate Logan's strength...but he is no where near a 2 tonner.

sorry, but wrong. It been shown this way over and over. Pleases provide evidences of Logan not being able to lift something less then 2 tons.

Oh and it was stated on pannel that his body must wieght tons, and then the floor was shown to give out before he did.

so pleases stop with your lame artiest excuses which you try and uses oevr and over.

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Oh and it was stated on pannel that his body must wieght tons, and then the floor was shown to give out before he did.

his body must weigh tons??!!!...what are you babbling about? please stop before you lose all credibility.

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his body must weigh tons??!!!...what are you babbling about? please stop before you lose all credibility.

Uncanny X-men 132: Harry Leland power is to increases a persons mass which he used against Wolverine. Wolverine �Must weight�ton�s--An� He�s Making Me Heavier�All The Time��. The text box then states �In The End However, It�s Not Wolverine Who Yields.. But The Floor Beneath Him.

So now I am not losing credibility and you may wish to stop this debate before you loses the rest of yours if you have any.

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Logan ripped Spiderman's webs pretty easily once too.

Spiderman gets tagged by people he is faster than a lot of times.

I mean do you have any scans of Sabertooth displaying the things you are saying he is capable of.

And after the Other Spiderman was about Class 20. (Which has been retconned )

Yea I get some evidences for why Sabertooth strength level Spiderman level it take awhile I got school work, but I will gett them later for you.

Maybe becuases spidermans not faster.

class 20 does not mean 20 ton's mungi debug that theory awhile back.

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Uncanny X-men 132: Harry Leland power is to increases a persons mass which he used against Wolverine. Wolverine �Must weight�ton�s--An� He�s Making Me Heavier�All The Time��. The text box then states �In The End However, It�s Not Wolverine Who Yields.. But The Floor Beneath Him.

So now I am not losing credibility and you may wish to stop this debate before you loses the rest of yours if you have any.

so you really think Logan weighs tons...AHAHAHAHAHAHHAhahahahahaha

PS: please do not ever post on KMC again. thank you.

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so you really think Logan weighs tons...AHAHAHAHAHAHHAhahahahahaha

PS: please do not ever post on KMC again. thank you.

You really like making an ass of your self don't you?

Harry Lelands power is to increases the wieght and mass of a person.
Did you even read what I posted whith evidences?

I am sorry, but if any one should leave it be you.

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His staff has not been aprt of his standard equiptment for a very long time.

not if we were talkign classic deathstroke then that be correct

But he has used it occasionally. Like when he too0k down the JLA in Identity Crisis.

Mar 5th, 2008 12:12 AM

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But he has used it occasionally. Like when he too0k down the JLA in Identity Crisis.

yes, but it not standard equiptment.

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Well I guess he doesn't carry with him in every issue. I don't know where it has gone because in his early run you never saw DS w/o the staff.

Mar 5th, 2008 12:16 AM

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Yea I get some evidences for why Sabertooth strength level Spiderman level it take awhile I got school work, but I will gett them later for you.

Maybe becuases spidermans not faster.

class 20 does not mean 20 ton's mungi debug that theory awhile back.

Spiderman has been hit by humans, he's not faster than them? Spiderman gets hit by people slower than himself.

Well it doesn't really matter what Mungi debugged, I use Class 20 as being able to lift 20 tons, he wasn't classified as Class 20 in the comics. wink

Mar 5th, 2008 12:17 AM

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