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Originally posted by Robtard
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/capiche

Then stop whining over nothing.


What are you pointing out to me? I don't get it. If you wanted to point out that I spelled it wrong, you should have spelled it "capisco".

Also,

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/capeesh

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=capiche

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Capiche


And what am I whining about?

edt- Addres my REAL post that was on topic Mr. Lightening man.


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Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
first this is neo with his matrix powers

second, luke has no way of harnessing anything in the matrix to amplify his own powers, he only has his own as demonstrated in the movies

third, neo cant erase luke from the matrix







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Originally posted by Neo_Version 7
Neo for the win.

If we were talking NJO Luke, things might be a little more interesting.



Thread over.


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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Thread over.




Seriously...well put. Makes perfect sense too.


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the Luke he is talking about has NO chance against Neo.


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Oh... oh god.

Movie Luke, I.E. Rotj Luke.. would get smashed.

NJO Luke would probably pwn though in a neutral setting.


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NJO Luke would PWN Neo if they had all their powers, there is no doubt there.

I wonder if this is the first time a thread starter has ruined a thread.


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No... it's not.

I've done dumb stuff like that before.


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Maybe we should just continue and ignore him. After all, we had a damn good debate going for PAGES til he came along.


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Originally posted by dadudemon
Did I say that Jedi's were faster than Lightening bolts?

Also, Smith and Neo are not nearly as fast as lightening arcing from ground to cloud. That is BS. No where in the movie do you see that.


I didn't mean Lightning Bolts. I meant Blasters, in reply to what you said. Must have had the lightning argument (which I indeed don't subscribe to) in my head.

Oh an addition about ROTS Obi Wan being able to fight ten agents. I doubt he could for long, especially not with it constantly being 10 no matter how many he kills. I would assume he'd do good for a bit, but at some point his precog abilities would not be enough to dodge all the attacks.

As for the Stasis, are we to understand that at some point in NJO Luke is not possible to be beaten in a one on one duel anymore? Can he just put his opponent in Stasis and cut them in half every time? Or are there limitations?


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I didn't mean Lightning Bolts. I meant Blasters, in reply to what you said. Must have had the lightning argument (which I indeed don't subscribe to) in my head.


No prob. Mistakes happen and I am full of them.

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Oh an addition about ROTS Obi Wan being able to fight ten agents. I doubt he could for long, especially not with it constantly being 10 no matter how many he kills. I would assume he'd do good for a bit, but at some point his precog abilities would not be enough to dodge all the attacks.


This is where we disagree. Obi Wan pwned General Grievous. General Grievous pwned several Jedi at once. The same Jedi which could pwn dozens or even hundreds of Robots at a time. Robots which had blasters that fired blaster bolts that traveled much faster than Smith could at the time a bunch of them fought Neo. Not to mention Obi Wan's force powers.

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As for the Stasis, are we to understand that at some point in NJO Luke is not possible to be beaten in a one on one duel anymore? Can he just put his opponent in Stasis and cut them in half every time? Or are there limitations?


It is called a story, plot, or what have you. Also, Luke was written to try to "turn" people to the light and give them seconds chances.

If Neo was the God of the matrix like Robtard Claims, why didn't he just erase all the Agents Smiths properly in Revolutions? Why didn't he form himself a weapon? Why didn't he just use all his infinite strength to rip apart Agent Smith?


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Why change the rules in the middle of a thread? It ruins an already active discussion.

I say we just go ahead with NJO Luke.


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Originally posted by dadudemon
No prob. Mistakes happen and I am full of them.



This is where we disagree. Obi Wan pwned General Grievous. General Grievous pwned several Jedi at once. The same Jedi which could pwn dozens or even hundreds of Robots at a time. Robots which had blasters that fired blaster bolts that traveled much faster than Smith could at the time a bunch of them fought Neo. Not to mention Obi Wan's force powers.



It is called a story, plot, or what have you. Also, Luke was written to try to "turn" people to the light and give them seconds chances.

If Neo was the God of the matrix like Robtard Claims, why didn't he just erase all the Agents Smiths properly in Revolutions? Why didn't he form himself a weapon? Why didn't he just use all his infinite strength to rip apart Agent Smith?
Come on, Obi Wan got pretty lucky against Grievous.And though the blasterbolts are likely faster than the Smiths in Matrix 2, the droids that use them are not nearly as fast or smart.

I agree that Neo was not nearly shown as being as powerful as he is told, but I believe that still, what he has shown could take any Jedi in the canon Yoda, Mace and Palpatine (yeah, yeah..sith) included. There are lots of variables though that would have to be defined to make sure what works against who, how and when and why...but due to his much larger speed, durability and strength I would generally give it to Neo.


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Originally posted by Impediment
Why change the rules in the middle of a thread? It ruins an already active discussion.

I say we just go ahead with NJO Luke.
But that would be changing the rules in the middle of the thread (which is what we did a few pages back anyways ( and it didn't really ruin the thread but gave it the match up needed not to be ridiculous))

Anyways, who'd you say and why?


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If Neo was the God of the matrix like Robtard Claims, why didn't he just erase all the Agents Smiths properly in Revolutions? Why didn't he form himself a weapon? Why didn't he just use all his infinite strength to rip apart Agent Smith?


well at the end of the movie he does wipe out every single agent smith (it is revealed in the coninued story from the online game that he is still alive)

also neo can't formulate himself a weapon only the prgrammer on the other end can do that for him,

all agent smith and neo were essentially two parts of the same cookie ne owas good he was bad, neo realizes that at the end, hence why he realizes he can't win and allows himself to be turned, why and how the agent smiths were erased is up to the viewers interpretation

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Originally posted by Impediment
Why change the rules in the middle of a thread? It ruins an already active discussion.

I say we just go ahead with NJO Luke.


Las time, sorry for any confusion

NJO Luke Skywalker vs. End of Martix Neo

the fight will be in an arena (mabe like the one they put the jedi's in in epidose 2)

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Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
Las time, sorry for any confusion

NJO Luke Skywalker vs. End of Martix Neo

the fight will be in an arena (mabe like the one they put the jedi's in in epidose 2)
and all of their respective powers work on the other?


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well at the end of the movie he does wipe out every single agent smith (it is revealed in the coninued story from the online game that he is still alive)


Its also virtually stated that he is still alive by the Oracle at the end of Revolutions.

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also neo can't formulate himself a weapon only the prgrammer on the other end can do that for him,


But as a virtual God of that reality, he should be able to because he can "manipulate reality".

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all agent smith and neo were essentially two parts of the same cookie ne owas good he was bad, neo realizes that at the end, hence why he realizes he can't win and allows himself to be turned,


That is basically what the architect said.

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why and how the agent smiths were erased is up to the viewers interpretation


Trying to assimilate Neo acted sort of like a logic bomb for Agent Smith. The "logic bomb" destroyed Agent Smiths program and, therefore, his control over the machine's world as it pertained to the Matrix. Neo realized this because of his "oneness" in the Matrix.


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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
and all of their respective powers work on the other?


yes, what you dont seem to understand though is that neos abilities allow him to fight against lukes abilities

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But as a virtual God of that reality, he should be able to because he can "manipulate reality".


he really doesnt need th weapons though, what weapon does he need when he can strike harder and faster than any bullet

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Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
yes, what you dont seem to understand though is that neos abilities allow him to fight against lukes abilities
and vice versa.


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