It will never be put to bed, they know it'll make money so they'll probably make a 5th alien movie and there will probably be a Predator 3, heck I'd watch them...I don't always listen to the critics because some of the movies they criticise are actually quite good...but only some of them.
I still don't agree with some of your points, but it seems like this is going to eventually boil down to a "agree to disagree" scenario, and that's fine - I prefer the dark violence of AVP:R, whereas you seem to prefer the triple-Predator action of AVP. To each their own. Perhaps they'll combine 'em in AVP3, and we'll both be happy.
The one thing I DO agree with you on, though, is your point about the AVP movies following a chronological order. It doesn't really bother me - I kinda liked how AVP's cliffhanger tied directly into the action in AVP:R - but this franchise IS one of the rare ones that has the ability to have completely seperate stand-alone episodes, and it would be fine. If one episode was set in present-day Antarctica and the next epidsoe was set 100 years in the future, I don't think anyone would particularly mind, since both the Predators and the Aliens seem a bit "future/timeless". While I don't have a problem with the way they've followed chronological order so far, I don't think the filmmakers should feel shackled to that concept, if they come up with an idea that goes somewhere else.
Just tie in the avp series to alien the way i suggested and then they could be free to go to what ever planet in what ever time
Predator 2 wasn't connected with the first Predator with the exception of seeing Anna's picutre and the mention of the 2 survivors and that the predator was there 10 years ago
By the way, I just finally picked up my copy of AvP:R on DVD yesterday - it's still awesome. I actually think the Unrated version is better than the version I saw in the theater; they added about 15 minutes of time back into the movie, and it really helps to flesh out some of the scenes, like the Predator discovering the wreckage of the ship on Earth. I don't know why they cut some of this stuff out of the theatrical release - it's really a better movie this way. Still, I'm glad I've got it now!
I'd love to see a Predator 3, but I don't know if it needs to have Dutch make a return. I know the Alien movies have a recurring character in Ripley, but other than that, it doesn't seem necessary - Predator 2 didn't have anyone from the first Predator film, and AvP:R didn't have anyone from the first AVP movie, and neither of them felt out-of-place or lacking for me because of it; they were both cool movies that managed to stand on their own merits.
I think the Predator/Alien/AVP franchises all really lend themselves to "stand-alone" stories - why mess that up by unnecessarily returning to a character who's been gone for 20 years?
I'm buying my copy of AVP: R on saturday. In the unrated version is the added time in deleted scenes or while watching the movie you see the 15 minutes during the film?
Also of note. Although the video game would make for a possible film, I think that a fresh brand new story based in outer space should be part 3
I will see Pred 3 anyway, whether it is a reboot or continuation. Its been a while since I've heard anytime about who will star, but I'll see it nonetheless.
it's only like 8 minutes longer not 15 and it does make some of the scenes make more sense, like the smaller ship crashing and how there are only 2 or 3 preds on it.
and it is intergrated into the movie.
i think the pred that shows up after may be the dead preds father.
it is still quite dark on my tv i can't even make out the hawkins on the grave stone because i have the brightness turned down to get rid of the red squares around the tiefighters in star wars.
I prefer dark violence over mindless action too. Not saying there is anything wrong with the latter, but the aliens and predator series are known for building the tension to an intense release. I dont think this was accomplished in the slightest in AvP;R though, it was attempted. You're right though, no sense in arguing further.
I'm sure the producers want to keep the movies proceeding in a seamless timeline. They probably feel the audience couldnt accept anything otherwise
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I was rather confused as to how it became this huge ship with most likely more than 2 predators plus one elder predator...to being a smaller looking ship with 2 predators.
I was wondering why that pred seemed upset about that other pred being dead..what makes you think they are related DM1?
The smaller ship is shown detatching from the bigger one in the unrated edition
and it just makes more sense that the 2 predators are related either the son dies and the father comes to the rescue or the younger brother dies and the elder one come to the rescue