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dvampire
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Amp his stats to what level? He's never amped his power, so why use it in a debate?

That sounds a lot like desperation Larceny.

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No. I never disproved it. I just said that since SS did the same thing then it proves that he has good battle speed too.

Actually... I know it was you that used the baseball logic to try and prove something before. It was in the Surfer vs Superman thread.
I believe you said that just because hitters can hit a 90 mph fastball, that doesn't mean they can block, or dodge slower punches.

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I know more than you think grasshopper. Just know that I'm very smart, for I am the VulcanData. Thus when I speak assume you are wrong until you undeniably know that you aren't. That is to say, give uber respect to the VulcanData.

You're almost never right though.
Just an arrogant person who makes about as much sense as Spidey-Dude.

And still... that doesn't prove you know anything of Odin.

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Originally posted by dvampire
Amp his stats to what level? He's never amped his power, so why use it in a debate?

That sounds a lot like desperation Larceny.

Er the odin force does allow him to amp his stats to extremely high lvls

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And another thing... he needs reflexes. Not speed.

Sure he can amp his speed, but what will that accomplish? Traveling a long ways away in a short amount of time?

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Originally posted by dvampire
Amp his stats to what level? He's never amped his power, so why use it in a debate?

That sounds a lot like desperation Larceny.

If you people don't start reading comics.....

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Originally posted by ultimatethor
Er the odin force does allow him to amp his stats to extremely high lvls

I'm asking to what level? How strong does he become? How fast or strong does he get?

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Originally posted by Larceny
It would be an assumption if he were actually new to the power. Considering he's possessed the power for about 5 years, I believe we have an accurate gauge of his power.

Um.... because he still possess Mjolnir.

Who said anything about him having Odin's feats? I only pointed out that the Odin Power gives him the ability to amp his physical attributes. Something he has and can do.

Hmm..... and you speak of desperation.

So in other words, you have nothing solid?
So far it's all been speculation on your end.

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Was it not you that the continually said if it were current Thor it'd be a better fight but with Classic it was a massacre?

No, actually we didn't. Or at least I didn't.

Again, ignore the fact that Thor's used the power to amp his physical abilities. Why don't you just read up on the character?

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Again, where is this physical amp?
Was it not you who ran with the magical amp theory?

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If you guys want to get technical about Thor with the Odinpower.

Currently he still possesses all the feats he had as Rune King Thor, seeing as that was still canon to him.

Therefore Thor blinks Superman out of existence like he did to Mangog.

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If you guys want to get technical about Thor with the Odinpower.

Currently he still possesses all the feats he had as Rune King Thor, seeing as that was still canon to him.

Therefore Thor blinks Superman out of existence like he did to Mangog.

Untrue.

Current Thor is very clearly not Rune King Thor, if only because he possesses both of his eyes.

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If you guys want to get technical about Thor with the Odinpower.

Currently he still possesses all the feats he had as Rune King Thor, seeing as that was still canon to him.

Therefore Thor blinks Superman out of existence like he did to Mangog.

Odinpower != Rune magic

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Originally posted by Soljer
Untrue.

Current Thor is very clearly not Rune King Thor, if only because he possesses both of his eyes.

Why is he clearly not RKT it is canon to him until stated otherwise.

Just because he has his eyes means nothing. Need I also mention he did find where Heimdal was.

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Odinpower != Rune magic

Odinpower = Asgard = Rune Magic

I hate to remind people but if Thor has the Odin power that means he still is the same as his last incarnation which was Rune King Thor. So tell me why he isn't.

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So in other words, you have nothing solid?
So far it's all been speculation on your end.

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Again, where is this physical amp?
Was it not you who ran with the magical amp theory?

And you speak of desperation?

Yes, why you continually deny this is beyond me?

Apr 12th, 2008 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by Newjak
Odinpower = Asgard = Rune Magic

Umm, no.

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Originally posted by Tetragrammaton
Umm, no.

Umm, yes

And once again explain to if Thor has the Odinpower like he did in his last incarnation why he isn't RKT because that is what he was last time he appeared in a comic.

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Apr 12th, 2008 06:28 PM

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Thor had the power of the Runes... and the Odin Power.
Something Odin never accomplished.

Also, Thor (and random heroes) has gained the Rune magic before... without involving anything around Asgard.

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Umm, yes

No.

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And once again explain to if Thor has the Odinpower like he did in his last incarnation why he isn't RKT because that is what he was last time he appeared in a comic.

This isn't rocket science. We didn't assume he had the Odinpower when Thor #1 came out. We waited for the book to confirm it.

The Rune magic completely changed the way he looked and the way he operated. What Soljer said about his eyes is a lot more valid than your assumption.

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Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Thor had the power of the Runes... and the Odin Power.
Something Odin never accomplished.

Also, Thor (and random heroes) has gained the Rune magic before... without involving anything around Asgard.

Correction he gained full knowledge on the runes then his father did. Hence the sacrificing of two eyes not one.

Also Thor (and random heroes) has tapped into the Rune Magic not gained it.

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Originally posted by Tetragrammaton
No.

This isn't rocket science. We didn't assume he had the Odinpower when Thor #1 came out. We waited for the book to confirm it.

The Rune magic completely changed the way he looked and the way he operated. What Soljer said about his eyes is a lot more valid than your assumption.

It isn't rocket science and yes we did wait to see if he had the Odinpower. Now that we know he does that means he he is the same as the last time we saw him.

Valid as it may be the fact that Thor maintained full knowledge of his past experiences and wisdom, which is all he gained from the Runes, then he also still has the full knowledge of the runes and the Odinpower to put it to use is mroe valid then his eyes.

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The Runes IIRC had nothing do with sacrificing his eyes. He sacrificed his eyes to gain knowledge. I believe that's when he gained omnipresence. I'll go read up on it.

Apr 12th, 2008 06:41 PM

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Originally posted by Newjak
It isn't rocket science and yes we did wait to see if he had the Odinpower. Now that we know he does that means he he is the same as the last time we saw him.

Valid as it may be the fact that Thor maintained full knowledge of his past experiences and wisdom, which is all he gained from the Runes, then he also still has the full knowledge of the runes and the Odinpower to put it to use.

So would it be fair to use Superman's Pre-Crisis feats on the forum since his Legion history is intact?

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