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Gladiator is stronger, and much faster than superman.

And thor manage to do some damage, are you Thor's hammer will fry his ass.

Supes speed won’t be like Gladiators, so he can’t do what Gladiator did to thor.


That speed didn't seem to help when the Hulk was beating the crap out of him. And Thor is still slow as a snail. Supes just fry him with his heat vision at about 5-6000 degrees. smile


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That speed didn't seem to help when the Hulk was beating the crap out of him. And Thor is still slow as a snail. Supes just fry him with his heat vision at about 5-6000 degrees. smile

ya he did use his speed didn't he.

Before even hulk realized he took hulk to space.

100X light speed vs speeding bullet you do the match: laugh:

And Add Magic weakness


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100X light speed vs speeding bullet you do the match: laugh:

Hahahahahahaha........................ sick

Give me a break kgkg.

He didnt look that fast when he fought Colossus or Thing or anybody for that matter.

I still want viable proof that he can move that fast.


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Hahahahahahaha........................ sick

Give me a break kgkg.

He didnt look that fast when he fought Colossus or Thing or anybody for that matter.

I still want viable proof that he can move that fast.

Didn’t I tell you already go pick up the comic

And as for heat vision, gladiator’s heat vision is hotter than the hottest stars ---- and Thor has reflected that back at him

You guys keep talking about slow people hitting fast guys it’s happens in comics.

Flash , Superman , Silver Surfer , Cm , Quasar etc all get hit by slow peepz it’s a comic , showing picture of thor getting hit doesn’t show that he is slow

I can do the same for anyone flash , superman , SS


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ya he did use his speed didn't he.

Before even hulk realized he took hulk to space.

100X light speed vs speeding bullet you do the match: laugh:

And Add Magic weakness


And the Hulk smacked him on his ears and he droped (he grabed the Hulk belly to belly, not very smart on glads part). smile


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You guys keep talking about slow people hitting fast guys it’s happens in comics.

kgkg we wouldnt bring it up if you and Cosmic Cube didnt use speed in all of your debates. You guys are the first ones to say "oh he is too fast this fight is over in a nanosecond"


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Didn’t I tell you already go pick up the comic

No you didnt.

What issue was it?


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kgkg we wouldnt bring it up if you and Cosmic Cube didnt use speed in all of your debates. You guys are the first ones to say "oh he is too fast this fight is over in a nanosecond"

No more

Well I use speed as argument

I don't bring up character getting hit say the character is not fast

Which you guys have done ( I can do the same)

Getting hit it happens in comics showing someone getting hit what does that prove?

Supes get’s hit all the time

But facts are Facts if someone has can go beyond light speed etc, or faster they have a big advantage in forum battles.


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No you didnt.

What issue was it?

I can't remember number i will look it up

It’s when Gladiator comes to earth, he battles Thor.

Reed makes a device that makes Thor (able to fight at 100X light Speed) to match Gladiator's speed


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kg, the purpose of the scans was not to show thor getting hit. ANY scan could do that. the purpose was to show that thor was not fast enough to hit someone moving at 'superspeed' in a fight. there's actually a big difference between the two. i recall masterson was stunned at how fast glads moved to close on him. he was not able to defend that initial attack like he was not able to defend the ones i showed.

i'm not gonna get into a supe v glad debate with you because we well know where we each stand on that score. all i'm saying is if thor really had 'lightning-fast reflexes' he could have struck spidey or mongoose. supes, in battle, striking, can move faster than either spidey OR mongoose. (as i showed in the supes/dd scan way back in this thread)and maybe, just maybe, he hit glads because glads wasn't moving at superspeed in their fight. for whatever reason.

and sentry, that spidey/supes pic is among the more misleading pics i've seen posted. supes did not expect the attack, nor was he actually 'fighting' spidey at the time spidey sucker punched him. i have the issue. later on in that book, spidey damn near breaks his hand when he hits a 'prepared' superman.

i swear that my last post in this thread . . .

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kg, the purpose of the scans was not to show thor getting hit. ANY scan could do that. the purpose was to show that thor was not fast enough to hit someone moving at 'superspeed' in a fight. there's actually a big difference between the two. i recall masterson was stunned at how fast glads moved to close on him. he was not able to defend that initial attack like he was not able to defend the ones i showed.

i'm not gonna get into a supe v glad debate with you because we well know where we each stand on that score. all i'm saying is if thor really had 'lightning-fast reflexes' he could have struck spidey or mongoose. supes, in battle, striking, can move faster than either spidey OR mongoose. (as i showed in the supes/dd scan way back in this thread)and maybe, just maybe, he hit glads because glads wasn't moving at superspeed in their fight. for whatever reason.

and sentry, that spidey/supes pic is among the more misleading pics i've seen posted. supes did not expect the attack, nor was he actually 'fighting' spidey at the time spidey sucker punched him. i have the issue. later on in that book, spidey damn near breaks his hand when he hits a 'prepared' superman.

i swear that my last post in this thread . . .

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Nice post I dig that.

But I do think Thor is going to hit Supes.

He did hit Quasar, Surfer, Gladiator etc before and his reflexes are pretty good.

and like i said a well writting Gladiator will simply knock thor's hammer every single time they fight smile


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<<Nice post I dig that.>>

thanks.

<<like i said a well writting Gladiator will simply knock thor's hammer every single time they fight>>

i tend to agree with you, here that it IS possible for him to do that. some reason, glads isn't written that way though. supes, i think, more often is. and i think supes could do the same thing. and yes, he WOULD get hit, no doubt. but supes can take an awful lot. just saying, it's why i can see him winning his share of their fights . . .


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kgkg we wouldnt bring it up if you and Cosmic Cube didnt use speed in all of your debates. You guys are the first ones to say "oh he is too fast this fight is over in a nanosecond"


Actually, Superman's supporters were the first to bring up speed in this debate.

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<<Nice post I dig that.>>

thanks.

<<like i said a well writting Gladiator will simply knock thor's hammer every single time they fight>>

i tend to agree with you, here that it IS possible for him to do that. some reason, glads isn't written that way though. supes, i think, more often is. and i think supes could do the same thing. and yes, he WOULD get hit, no doubt. but supes can take an awful lot. just saying, it's why i can see him winning his share of their fights . . .


Thor can take just as much punishment, and he doesn't have a specific weakness either. Superman can take a lot of punishment, but it has been proven that he can not take a lot of magic, and that's just what Thor is bringing to the table. Thor has knocked the crap out of Spidey, and Mongoose, and even matched speed with Quicksilver. Thor's reflexes are more than enough to tag Superman, and blokc his attacks. Superman isn't anywhere near as fast as Gladiator is, so knocking away Mjolnir isn't an option, and neither is the speedblitz. With the speed argument out of the window, Superman has virtually no advantages. Thor has at least two. I don't see Superman winning at all.

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If Superman can avoid his Godforce blast then he should be able to do Thor in. Superman properly written should be able to avoid such a attack.

I dont know if Superman could continue the fight after being hit by the Godforce. That is Thors only shot.


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If Superman can avoid his Godforce blast then he should be able to do Thor in. Superman properly written should be able to avoid such a attack.

I dont know if Superman could continue the fight after being hit by the Godforce. That is Thors only shot.


Superman isn't exactly notorious for avoiding attacks, and the Godblast isn't just a beam. It's an omnidirectional attack.

The Godblast isn't the only way Thor can win this fight, either. He could also use the Odinforce, which is much more potent than the Godblast, and would likely kill Superman. Thor could certainly go hand to hand with Superman, and win about 5 out of 10 fights.

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Thor cant use the Odinforce anymore. I dont think.

If you are using Thor with all of his power why cant Pre-Crisis Superman be allowed in this fight?


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i'm curious - you keep mentioning the odinforce - i can't remember ever seeing thor use the odin power unless he was ruling asgard at the time. where do you keep getting the odin force from, and where have you seen thor use it?


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Thor cant use the Odinforce anymore. I dont think.

If you are using Thor with all of his power why cant Pre-Crisis Superman be allowed in this fight?


Thor is the King of Asgard now. Even before that, he could use the Odinforce.

Because pre-crisis Superman doesn't exist, and he would lose in this fight even quicker than post-supes. Just being around magical stuff affected him.

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i'm curious - you keep mentioning the odinforce - i can't remember ever seeing thor use the odin power unless he was ruling asgard at the time. where do you keep getting the odin force from, and where have you seen thor use it?


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Thor is the King of Asgard now. Even before that, he could use the Odinforce.

Because pre-crisis Superman doesn't exist,
But there is a Crisis brewing at DC wink


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