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Captain James Tiberius Kirk 15 37.50%
Captain Jean-Luc Picard 16 40.00%
Captain Benjamin Sisko 4 10.00%
Captain Kathryn Janeway 3 7.50%
Captain Jonathan Archer 2 5.00%
Total: 40 votes 100%
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Favorite captain
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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Technically Archer is the original.


heresy. stick out tongue


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archer wasn't bad tho, in all honesty... i prefer him to janeway...


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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Technically Archer is the original.




I kept on seeing Quantum Leap everytime Archer came on the screen. He was horrible to


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archer wasn't bad tho, in all honesty... i prefer him to janeway...


Oh, hell yeah.

I have never understood why they kept putting her in sexual situations. *shudder* Not to mention that she wasn't really much of a leader compared to every other captain.


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Originally posted by Raoul
archer wasn't bad tho, in all honesty... i prefer him to janeway...
I dunno; Archer seemed as flat as a piece of cardboard to me. Sure, Janeway started out as a cutout a feminist captain, but as time went by she developed a matriarchal air about her. She was the highest authority on her ship, but still cared about keeping the crew as family. She became willing to do anything to insure that her crew would survive. Obviously, she wasn't as physically imposing as Sisko or Kirk, but she'd get angry as a hornet if anyone messed with her crew.


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Oh, hell yeah.

I have never understood why they kept putting her in sexual situations. *shudder* Not to mention that she wasn't really much of a leader compared to every other captain.


amen to that...

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I dunno; Archer seemed as flat as a piece of cardboard to me. Sure, Janeway started out as a cutout a feminist captain, but as time went by she developed a matriarchal air about her. She was the highest authority on her ship, but still cared about keeping the crew as family. She became willing to do anything to insure that her crew would survive. Obviously, she wasn't as physically imposing as Sisko or Kirk, but she'd get angry as a hornet if anyone messed with her crew.


that would be the same of any captain though... janeway, imo, might have been a good community leader, but she was a bad starfleet captain...


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amen to that...



that would be the same of any captain though... janeway, imo, might have been a good community leader, but she was a bad starfleet captain...
I agree, though I will add that Janeway had special circumstances that set her apart from other captains.

1) She had a tiny crew. Every death jeopardized the possibility that the rest could return to Earth.

2) She had no support from Starfleet, the UFP, or the Vulcans. Generally, she could only count on herself and her crew. No other Starfleet captain has regularly had to deal with such a challenge. Not even Archer.

That being the case, I would say that Janeway was both an effective community leader and captain, though probably a poor model of a Starfleet officer. She was forced to make much harder choices in order to insure the survival of her crew.


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Originally posted by Acrosurge
I agree, though I will add that Janeway had special circumstances that set her apart from other captains.

1) She had a tiny crew. Every death jeopardized the possibility that the rest could return to Earth.

2) She had no support from Starfleet, the UFP, or the Vulcans. Generally, she could only count on herself and her crew. No other Starfleet captain has regularly had to deal with such a challenge. Not even Archer.

That being the case, I would say that Janeway was both an effective community leader and captain, though probably a poor model of a Starfleet officer. She was forced to make much harder choices in order to insure the survival of her crew.


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I agree, though I will add that Janeway had special circumstances that set her apart from other captains.

1) She had a tiny crew. Every death jeopardized the possibility that the rest could return to Earth.

2) She had no support from Starfleet, the UFP, or the Vulcans. Generally, she could only count on herself and her crew. No other Starfleet captain has regularly had to deal with such a challenge. Not even Archer.

That being the case, I would say that Janeway was both an effective community leader and captain, though probably a poor model of a Starfleet officer. She was forced to make much harder choices in order to insure the survival of her crew.


i actually think she made alot of poor decisions, to be honest... i mean, one minute, she's refusing to take technology tthat would make their journey shorter, yet at others she's more than willing to violate the borders of races under the pretense of 'getting her crew home' when she really had no right to, imo...

i mean, look at the amount of times chakotay went against her...

i can accept that there were special circumstances, of course, but using starfleet regulations so elastically at times just annoyed me, especially when the crew's life was at stake...

so no, i don't think she was a good captain, starfleet or no... stick out tongue


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i actually think she made alot of poor decisions, to be honest... i mean, one minute, she's refusing to take technology tthat would make their journey shorter, yet at others she's more than willing to violate the borders of races under the pretense of 'getting her crew home' when she really had no right to, imo...

i mean, look at the amount of times chakotay went against her...

i can accept that there were special circumstances, of course, but using starfleet regulations so elastically at times just annoyed me, especially when the crew's life was at stake...

so no, i don't think she was a good captain, starfleet or no... stick out tongue
I could be totally off base about this, but I remember Janeway's evolution away from the Prime Directive to be chronological, rather than erratic. Over time, she simply became more willing to protect her crew by any means necessary, even if it meant betraying Federation principles. Does that make her a hypocrite? Perhaps, but she didn't care. Right or wrong, she wanted to get her crew home safely, and she did.

Effective captain, yes. Model Starfleet captain, no. Moral captain? That's for you to decide!


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Pike is the first star trek captain actually.

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Pike is the first star trek captain actually.
That... is an excellent point! Did you like him?


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Pike is the first star trek captain actually.



But he just went on one mission with Spock


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Picard
Kirk
Sisko
Archer
Janeway


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Hell, Jeri Ryan would have made a better Captain than Janeway.


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My order of best captains:
1.Picard-he's just awesome
2.Kirk-the classic
3.Archer-he's cooler than Janeway
4.Janeway-level of involvement
5.Sisko-he's cool but not cool enough


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Picard
Kirk
Sisko
Archer
Janeway




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Hell, Jeri Ryan would have made a better Captain than Janeway.




She may have.


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oh the irony that the woman and the black guy have almost no votes


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