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NX-01 0 0%
Enterprise (NCC 1701) 4 16.67%
Enterprise-A 0 0%
Enterprise-B 1 4.17%
Enterprise-C 0 0%
Enterprise-D 5 20.83%
Enterprise-E 5 20.83%
U.S.S. Defiant 6 25.00%
Voyager 3 12.50%
Total: 24 votes 100%
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What was the name of that prototype ship that was shown on Voyager? I can't remember.

For me it's either the Defiant or Enterprise E. The Enterprise J was pretty sick too (ST:Enterprise Episode).


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What was the name of that prototype ship that was shown on Voyager? I can't remember.

For me it's either the Defiant or Enterprise E. The Enterprise J was pretty sick too (ST:Enterprise Episode).


the dauntless was the fake one, the one captured by romulans was the prometheus...


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I liked the design of that ship as well.


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Originally posted by illadelph12
I liked the design of that ship as well.


me too, i regularly use it in bridge commander...


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I am starting to really like the akira class, i play star wars legacy on xbox 360, its a decent game...a liitle short for me, but i like it allot, i am thinking of new ships btw...the original enterprise will alway have a special place with me...and with it the refit for the movies


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I am starting to really like the akira class, i play star wars legacy on xbox 360, its a decent game...a liitle short for me, but i like it allot, i am thinking of new ships btw...the original enterprise will alway have a special place with me...and with it the refit for the movies


akira isn't a bad ship by any means, legacy wasnt bad on xbox, but it sucked big time on pc...

yeah, i like the akira, i just think that it lacks that little bit of extra firepower that a galaxy or sovereign has...


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Originally posted by Raoul
akira isn't a bad ship by any means, legacy wasnt bad on xbox, but it sucked big time on pc...

yeah, i like the akira, i just think that it lacks that little bit of extra firepower that a galaxy or sovereign has...


It definetly lacks the firepower, but i think it makes up for it in speed an manuverability, and at the time it had ablative armor.....which the galaxy did not have(maybe they were refitted with it), isnt it great to have a forum to talk about these things smile


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Originally posted by Raoul
i didn't know it had rear quantum tubes... i know it has the dorsal and ventral photon tubes, but i thought it was just the three...
Sorry about that. I should have been more clear.

Production designs from ST: Nemesis show the Ent:E with upgraded torpedo launchers. There are four torpedo units shown (three of which were seen to fire during Nemesis, while the fourth may have been fired during Insurrection):

1) A forward quantum torpedo launcher on the saucer ventral.

2) A rear, dual photon torpedo launcher on the dorsal saucer around deck 3.

3) A quad photon torpedo launcher (two forward, two aft) on the engineering ventral.

4) A rear photon torpedo launcher just above the main shuttle bay on the engineering hull.

That comes to a total of 8 launchers. @[email protected]


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Sorry about that. I should have been more clear.

Production designs from ST: Nemesis show the Ent:E with upgraded torpedo launchers. There are four torpedo units shown (three of which were seen to fire during Nemesis, while the fourth may have been fired during Insurrection):

1) A forward quantum torpedo launcher on the saucer ventral.

2) A rear, dual photon torpedo launcher on the dorsal saucer around deck 3.

3) A quad photon torpedo launcher (two forward, two aft) on the engineering ventral.

4) A rear photon torpedo launcher just above the main shuttle bay on the engineering hull.

That comes to a total of 8 launchers. @[email protected]


the nemesis enterprise was very different from the insurrection and first contact one, even the structure of the ship was diffrent...

i don't think it could have 8 launchers... seriously...


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Originally posted by Raoul
the nemesis enterprise was very different from the insurrection and first contact one, even the structure of the ship was diffrent...

i don't think it could have 8 launchers... seriously...
Well, to be strictly technical, there are four units that launch torpedoes, but some of them are dual or quad launchers (separate torpedo tubes), hence I counted them up separately.

They are a part of the schematics and notes for ST:Nemesis, so you might be able to argue a canon policy against them, based on the fact that we don't see the quad or dual launches up close (that and one of the aft tubes isn't seen to fire in the final cut of the film). That's up to you.

I'm a big pre-production guy, so I tend to put a lot of stock into production notes, scripts, and such. smile


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ah, i see what you were going by... if a tube can launch 4 torpedoes, i still only count it as one...

from what i recall, i was convinced the enterprise had 3 launchers, the main quantum turret, the aft one on the saucer section for the photons, and the ventral one that could fire both forward and aft... the fourth one is probable too, but i don't recall it being seen on-screen...


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Originally posted by Raoul
ah, i see what you were going by... if a tube can launch 4 torpedoes, i still only count it as one...

from what i recall, i was convinced the enterprise had 3 launchers, the main quantum turret, the aft one on the saucer section for the photons, and the ventral one that could fire both forward and aft... the fourth one is probable too, but i don't recall it being seen on-screen...
Heh, its confusing, but I actually was talking about the number of launchers on each unit (not the number of torps to a tube). But we can agree to disagree! I'm just a junkie for production notes and such. It happens to us movie geeks.


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http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Sovereign_class

According to memory Alpha, after a major refit, Sovereign class ships had 10 launchers and 16 phaser arrays.


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Heh, its confusing, but I actually was talking about the number of launchers on each unit (not the number of torps to a tube). But we can agree to disagree! I'm just a junkie for production notes and such. It happens to us movie geeks.


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http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Sovereign_class

According to memory Alpha, after a major refit, Sovereign class ships had 10 launchers and 16 phaser arrays.


good ol nemesis messing with trek... sad

the phaser arrays i can understand, but 10 torpedo launchers? unless they mean the actual amount of torpedoes fired per ship...


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Apparently, the Enterprise E was the first starship to employ type 10+ phasers, previously used only in heavy, planetary defense arrays and fortified star bases. More big guns, woohoo!


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The Connie. THe only ship where the captain sat in a "lazyboy" whilst having his beverages brought to him by a waitress in a short skirt!


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good ol nemesis messing with trek... sad

the phaser arrays i can understand, but 10 torpedo launchers? unless they mean the actual amount of torpedoes fired per ship...
Ah, that's nothing! Production sources and the Star Trek Magazine peg Akira class vessels with 15 photon torpedo launchers and two shuttle bays that link through the center of the ship for rapid, support craft deployment.

The thing is basically a flying, heavy weapons platform. big grin


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I like all 3 but can't pick a winner.


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