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Well, I can't believe I'm arguing minor points of Star Wars, but here we go. Han being frozen was just testing it to see if it could be done for Luke. Vader was all set to pay Bobba Fett if Han didn't live through it, so his survival was not a sure thing at all.

Didn't Kirk struggle fighting Spock one time? Spock, the more cerebral character?


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Well, I can't believe I'm arguing minor points of Star Wars, but here we go. Han being frozen was just testing it to see if it could be done for Luke. Vader was all set to pay Bobba Fett if Han didn't live through it, so his survival was not a sure thing at all.

Didn't Kirk struggle fighting Spock one time? Spock, the more cerebral character?
Jabba wanted Solo alive. Vader didn't give a shit about Solo, if he lived or died. As you said, he was prepared to compensate Fett if Solo died.

So yeah, what you said. stick out tongue


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Originally posted by willofthewisp
Well, I can't believe I'm arguing minor points of Star Wars, but here we go. Han being frozen was just testing it to see if it could be done for Luke. Vader was all set to pay Bobba Fett if Han didn't live through it, so his survival was not a sure thing at all.

Didn't Kirk struggle fighting Spock one time? Spock, the more cerebral character?


Didn't C3PO say he was perfectly safe while frozen? As mentioned before, "beating the odds" is a moot point, as Kirk has pulled out wins even in the most dire of situations.

Yes he did, which only shows Kirk's prowess.

1) Vulcans are about 3 times as strong as humans
2) They were fighting on planet Vulcan, which has a thin oxygen atmosphere compared to Earth.


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well C3P0 was a droid, likely it was in his programming to know that.


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I think Kirk's record of besting far more powerful foes would qualify as that too. So that's wash.

Unless of course, you count the time Han was captured like a little *****, frozen and turn into a decoration. Then had to wait for a woman to rescue him, not sure that counts as "always beating the odds".


The odds of successfully navigating an asteroid field: approximately 3,720 to 1.

The odds of successfully beating up a pretty boy in tights: a lot better.


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The odds of successfully navigating an asteroid field: approximately 3,720 to 1.

The odds of successfully beating up a pretty boy in tights: a lot better.


Not sure how Han's piloting skills will help him in a fist fight.

Not when the "pretty boy" in question has numerous wins against more powerful foes on his side.


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The odds of successfully navigating an asteroid field: approximately 3,720 to 1.

The odds of successfully beating up a pretty boy in tights: a lot better.
yes thumb up


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yes thumb up


You'll agree with any irrelevant shit as long as you think it somehow makes the SW character win, seems to be the pattern; it's very strange.


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You'll agree with any irrelevant shit as long as you think it somehow makes the SW character win, seems to be the pattern; it's very strange.
not nearly as strange as your hostility.


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not nearly as strange as your hostility.


Now I'm hostile for making a valid observation?


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Now I'm hostile for making a valid observation?
no, you are hostile on a general basis. You are pretty much a hostile individual.


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no, you are hostile on a general basis. You are pretty much a hostile individual.


You know, slanderous lies can be considered as hostility.


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Oh yeah...


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More Kirk badassery.


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Here you see Kirk's unconventional, yet bad ass fight moves. What's Solo going to do when Kirk uses his patented "butt-drop" move (@ 00:19)?

You'll also notice that not even a knife to the kidney if enough to stop Kirk.


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Re: Han Solo versus Captain Kirk.....

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Fistfight. No weapons, at night in the swamps of Dagobah, knee deep in muck.....who wins?
It wouldn't matter. As soon as Solo is in any kind of danger, Chewbacca would jump in and rip his opponent apart.


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I have seen Star Trek fist fighting.

Han takes this easily. no expression


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I have seen Star Trek fist fighting.

Han takes this easily. no expression


DO tell us of the greatness of Han's fist figthing you've seen?


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You'll agree with any irrelevant shit as long as you think it somehow makes [anyone who realizes you spend most of your time sitting on your face lose], seems to be the pattern; it's very strange.


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DO tell us of the greatness of Han's fist figthing you've seen?


That's true. The only fist fights I recall Han getting into was when he was blind on a skiff in the Tatooine desert and half-assed after being tortured and lying in a prison cell on Bespin.

I like Han a lot, but this one (based on character insight alone) has to go to Kirk. Han uses his intelligence and wit to get out of fist fights. Kirk tends to use a fight as a first resort.


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Did you quote me right? I could swear I made sense in my reply to RJ.

Exactly, a smuggler's best weapon is avoiding being caught then then escaping if spotted. Solo is crafty, but a runner, besides, he has an eight foot tall Wookie as muscle to rely on.

Kirk fights, it's just what he does. He's the one Starfeelt Captain that would rather fire than try diplimacy more times than not. He could take out Solo with a dramatic Shatner pause.


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