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He is on the next page in the comic. There was Blade, the guy Blade was fighting, Blade's friend, two other vampires and an unconscious chick in the room when it exploded. Not one of them was injured. It was a tame explotion.
apparentlynot, if you look at the force of the explosion it tore a mailbox of the ground and thre it into the street as well as blew the windows out annd enflamed the building and one of the vampires was covered in ruble, vampires are mor edurable than humans so ofcourse they survived

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apparentlynot, if you look at the force of the explosion it tore a mailbox of the ground and thre it into the street as well as blew the windows out annd enflamed the building and one of the vampires was covered in ruble, vampires are mor edurable than humans so ofcourse they survived


No one was injured, no ones clothes where even turn, burnt or singed. Not Blade's, not Bible John's, not any of the three vampires and not the unconscious woman. No one was injured. The entire bases of your claim that Blade is more durable because he survived that explosion, means that you assume it is outside of Captain America's ability to accomplish the same... and yet regular humans survived the same explosion with out injuring a single hair on their head. It isn't impressive that Blade survived that explosion... because that explosion not only didn't kill anyone... it didn't even manage to injure anyone.


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He is on the next page in the comic. There was Blade, the guy Blade was fighting, Blade's friend, two other vampires and an unconscious chick in the room when it exploded. Not one of them was injured. It was a tame explotion.
Vampires should be able to survive a attack like that as they are more durable than Cap is. And Blade told Bible John to take cover before he blew the building up.

Quit hating. It's a legit feat.


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Bible John even states a few pages later that he's surprised Blade can stand after watching a building collapse on him. Sh!t Blade wasn't even a daywalker yet.


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I also notice this is being ignored:
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Blade set the charges and blew up the plant himself, it would be idiotic to assume that he blew up the joint while he was inside. All we know is A) Blade blew up the factory and B) some flames managed to get close to where he was standing. The incident is ambiguous and proves nothing because we don't know Blade's location in relationship to the blast.


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Blade set the charges and blew up the plant himself, it would be idiotic to assume that he blew up the joint while he was inside. All we know is A) Blade blew up the factory and B) some flames managed to get close to where he was standing. The incident is ambiguous and proves nothing because we don't know Blade's location in relationship to the blast.
do you know the amount of radiation blade was exposed to by being that close the the blast, and blade was engulfed in flames in the picture, and again the amount of radiation alone would eat a normal man fro mthe inside out i na matter of days

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Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
it shows mr fantastic reching for ihm while hes still a couple of yard s in the air, and in the next panel his arms are around him...that looks like a catch to me

and when has he faught a high blood lusted ironman?


Now that I re-looked at that panel. I'll concede that its possible he did slow him down a bit maybe a decimal, but considering Reed couldn't stop him.

Plus the fact that the "The Thing" who has taken shots from Hulk, Thor, and Ironman. The Thing actually loses his wind as Cap crashes on him as Ben saids,"OOOFTH!" As its hard to knock the wind out of the Thing with his class 80 strength/durability. I'd say its still rather impressive. Thing even admits it was a rough job or in this case impact.

Blood lusted Ironman? In a annual right here.
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Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
do you know the amount of radiation blade was exposed


Radiation impressive but Cap's done that in a nuclear containment unit. Two of those didn't think it was possible what Cap did.
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Vampires should be able to survive a attack like that as they are more durable than Cap is. And Blade told Bible John to take cover before he blew the building up.

Quit hating. It's a legit feat.


How about the unconcious woman who was also completely unscathed?

Who's hating? No one's questioning that it's "a legit feat." We're just pointing out that Cap has done the same and better.

Heck, if anything it's the pro-Blade side that's hating.

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Radiation impressive but Cap's done that in a nuclear containment unit. Two of those didn't think it was possible what Cap did.
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Radiation impressive but Cap's done that in a nuclear containment unit. Two of those didn't think it was possible what Cap did.
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that is barely better than what blade has done, especially since he says he would be toast a while ago, meaning his shield was absorbing most of the radiation, blade had no protection to the free radiation being immitted after the facility had been blown up, from where he was standing the fall out wouldve been about the same as that of a nuclear bomb or worse

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Now that I re-looked at that panel. I'll concede that its possible he did slow him down a bit maybe a decimal, but considering Reed couldn't stop him.

Plus the fact that the "The Thing" who has taken shots from Hulk, Thor, and Ironman. The Thing actually loses his wind as Cap crashes on him as Ben saids,"OOOFTH!" As its hard to knock the wind out of the Thing with his class 80 strength/durability. I'd say its still rather impressive. Thing even admits it was a rough job or in this case impact.

Blood lusted Ironman? In a annual right here.
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http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?...aann0919zm0.jpg
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never said it wasnt impressive, simply that mr fatastic also took much force out of the fall

and again that is pretty impressive taking the hits fro mironman, yet he only took two and that was about to kill him, the problem with blade is with the opponents hes been up against its hard to rank them with other mainstream heroes,

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How about the unconcious woman who was also completely unscathed?

Who's hating? No one's questioning that it's "a legit feat." We're just pointing out that Cap has done the same and better.

Heck, if anything it's the pro-Blade side that's hating.
better has yet to be shown

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that is barely better than what blade has done, especially since he says he would be toast a while ago, meaning his shield was absorbing most of the radiation, blade had no protection to the free radiation being immitted after the facility had been blown up, from where he was standing the fall out wouldve been about the same as that of a nuclear bomb or worse


Barely better is barely better. Plus Blades clothes weren't even affected by his feat as Cap's clothes was if you noticed. The shield can absorb an area only so much.

It absorbs energy the shield but only so much. Cap holds shield and can block class 100 hits Thor/Glad hits. An average person holds shield and blocks Thunderball hits and dies.

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Barely better is barely better. Plus Blades clothes weren't even affected by his feat as Cap's clothes was if you noticed. The shield can absorb an area only so much.

It absorbs energy the shield but only so much. Cap holds shield and can block class 100 hits Thor/Glad hits. An average person holds shield and blocks Thunderball hits and dies.
that is simply artist depiction, same way wolverine ca ntake a nuclear bomb with his pants still be entact

being that close to the nuclear reactor the radiation wouldve been equal to about the same as an atomic bomb

and I fail to see how your last point matters, he states his shield was saving him big time or he wouldve been dead long ago meaning the shield was obviously absorbing much of the radiation

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never said it wasnt impressive, simply that mr fatastic also took much force out of the fall

and again that is pretty impressive taking the hits fro mironman, yet he only took two and that was about to kill him, the problem with blade is with the opponents hes been up against its hard to rank them with other mainstream heroes,




Took much force. Thats your assumption considering that the Thing has taken building falls, class 80 hits, and wrecks without getting the wind knocked out of him shows Mr. Fantastic didn't help that much at all.

Again no were did it say they were about to kill him and it was 3 hits. Cap actually stated he could do that all day.

Well then until you find Blade taking shots from Ironman and then a "bloodlusted" then get back to us. Cap has the slightly "better" durability feats going by the books.

I bet Cap has the slightly better speed feats as well.

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that is simply artist depiction, same way wolverine ca ntake a nuclear bomb with his pants still be entact

being that close to the nuclear reactor the radiation wouldve been equal to about the same as an atomic bomb

and I fail to see how your last point matters, he states his shield was saving him big time or he wouldve been dead long ago meaning the shield was obviously absorbing much of the radiation



The shield varies according to writer depiction. I can use your excuses since thats what your doing. And I fail to see how that matters since Cap quit using the shield to protect him and used the shield to strike his way out of a nuclear containment hull.

By that logic I can say if Blade was in the center of his blast he would've been dead long ago meaning his clothes would've been affected and it would have portrayed him withstanding the main impact but it didn't.

See I can make excuses too.

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Took much force. Thats your assumption considering that the Thing has taken building falls, class 80 hits, and wrecks without getting the wind knocked out of him shows Mr. Fantastic didn't help that much at all.

Again no were did it say they were about to kill him and it was 3 hits. Cap actually stated he could do that all day.

Well then until you find Blade taking shots from Ironman and then a "bloodlusted" then get back to us. Cap has the slightly "better" durability feats going by the books.

I bet Cap has the slightly better speed feats as well.

he still took force out of the fall, he had him when he was stil many yards in the air and was exerting force meaning he was slowing his fall, no where does it state ben had the wind knocked out of him, the "ooomph" can be from ben simply diving to the ground to catch him or simply to show benn took the impact, simply saying oomph doesnt mean he had the wind knocked out of him

and it was stated captain america was merely egging ironman on and angering him, looking at the panels its obvious captain america was about to die, and said he would've had ironman not snapped out of it in time.

and blade doesnt fight heroes, captain america getting himself beat up no way puts him above blade in durability

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The shield varies according to writer depiction. I can use your excuses since thats what your doing. And I fail to see how that matters since Cap quit using the shield to protect him and used the shield to strike his way out of a nuclear containment hull.

By that logic I can say if Blade was in the center of his blast he would've been dead long ago meaning his clothes would've been affected and it would have portrayed him withstanding the main impact but it didn't.

See I can make excuses too.
no the difference is Im using whats stated, captain america STATED he wouldve died long ago if he didnt have his shield, captain america took a couple of seconds of bare radiation before he broke out of the containment unit.

and the fact again is he was rigth next to a nuclear reactor after it had blow nup, he couldve been miles away and he stilll wouldve been affeected with radiation equal to hiroshima, however the fact that he is standing in the flames of the explosion means he cant be far away from it and thus iis being exposed to very high levels of radiation

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